thisphantomfortress Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, jw1739 said: My point is "Does it really matter where the inspiration came from?" We have IMO the best football club badge in the world, and the basics of it have been copied to the other two operating clubs in the stable - even the mother club itself. Similarly with the red-and-white. The "Who did what, where, and to whom?" doesn't matter. What matters is that we currently have r&w as our change kit, and we should be ready to fight to keep it. Otherwise, IMO it's time to move on as TA has so eloquently suggested. I'm more just giving credit where it's due more than anything. I love our badge and I feel a sense of gratitude to YS for it. I'm 100% behind @Torn Asunder's comment though, I've expressed similar sentiment on here before just not so eloquently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, cadete said: What are you talking about? The Flag was raised prior to every second Heart Home Game by Yarraside for Four Years, I cant remember it ever being adopted by Bay 16 prior or during their #KeepMelbourneRedandWhite Campaign. The club instructed the players on the day to ignore the campaign (Which they did) and then immediately after put plans in for us to wear Sky Blue at Home and White/Sky Blue and Navy when playing Away. I dont know how CFG could have ignored the campaign more blatantly than by doing the above. It's ok, I'm not saying your wrong. Your comment ("The Logo came from the adoption of displaying the Large Melbourne Flag by Yarraside in Season 2") made me assume they were in support of using fans inspired flag from 4 seasons ago as the logo for the club. I didn't know Yarraside continued to use this flag thereafter or that they chose the logo based on a picture, as @thisphantomfortress mentioned. .......So basically Yarraside had no intentional influence on the current badge (which by the sounds of it was a chance occurrence based on someone from City seeing the flag in a picture). And the Red and White campaign had no influence on our current away strip. Edited July 4, 2016 by n i k o Posts merged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I have only question. @cadete you've been looking at the clock today. Haven't you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jovan said: I have only question. @cadete you've been looking at the clock today. Haven't you? My Younger Brother came down for the weekend and we had a big Friday Night and Weekend so I am pretty over being at my desk right now... Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Torn Asunder said: You can dwell on the he said / she said till your blue in the face, but this wont stop people being predictable and going back on their word. As we stand now, I think that people who were Heart supporters, still support the club. Don't you mean red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFG_82 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Club needs more City Blue tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 What the heck is City blue..? When I grew up Man City didn´t play in todays super pale blue and soon after played in "lazer" blue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Unfortunately it's whatever shade that these so-called kit "designers" decide it is and you're lucky if it remains that shade for a whole season before it changes again. The shade that I associated as "traditional" for Manchester City is this one: http://paragonauctionsite.com/1960-61-denis-law-10-manchester-city-match-worn-j-lot4412.aspx but when I go back through other images it seems that the colour varied more, and more frequently, than I thought it did. Whether these changes were real or a result of different image reproduction technologies I'm not sure. Prefer the lighter shade myself, and hate the lilac tone that comes in from time to time, and hate the inclusion of dark blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 17 hours ago, jw1739 said: My point is "Does it really matter where the inspiration came from?" We have IMO the best football club badge in the world, and the basics of it have been copied to the other two operating clubs in the stable - even the mother club itself. Similarly with the red-and-white. The "Who did what, where, and to whom?" doesn't matter. What matters is that we currently have r&w as our change kit, and we should be ready to fight to keep it. Otherwise, IMO it's time to move on as TA has so eloquently suggested. It doesn't matter how hard PPL fight CFG will do what they want... just like what they did the first time around. The head of organisation is the son of an Absolute Monarch where every second advert on TV in their country amongst the footage of skyscrapers features of himself and his father driving in Tanks and firing Machine Guns... these guys will also do what they want and when they want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 My understanding is that the Sheikh is very hands off as the owner. He and his closest advisers have set some specific high level objectives for CFG, (i.e., having a top 5 team in the world, champions league, trophies, not running at a loss, to continue to grow the game at grassroots, women's football, community investment, fan engagement, etc). He then ensures he has world class business people running CFG, and if they don't deliver, they are moved on following a considered ongoing review process. Financial diligence is applied every step of the way. There is no doubt they will do what they need to do to get where they want (i.e. playing hard ball with FFA to get City Blue), but generally its more like 'slow and steady wins the race' as opposed to a 'bull in a china shop'. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 30 minutes ago, Torn Asunder said: My understanding is that the Sheikh is very hands off as the owner. He and his closest advisers have set some specific high level objectives for CFG, (i.e., having a top 5 team in the world, champions league, trophies, not running at a loss, to continue to grow the game at grassroots, women's football, community investment, fan engagement, etc). He then ensures he has world class business people running CFG, and if they don't deliver, they are moved on following a considered ongoing review process. Financial diligence is applied every step of the way. There is no doubt they will do what they need to do to get where they want (i.e. playing hard ball with FFA to get City Blue), but generally its more like 'slow and steady wins the race' as opposed to a 'bull in a china shop'. Even all their racehorses' jockeys all around the world race in City Blue... and they won the most horses in the world with stables in several countries. Maybe they will keep our current Away Kit but personally I am not going draw a connection between Melbourne City and Melbourne Heart because of this last minute token gesture. Melbourne City is a new club... hence the fact if they really wanted to show respect to Melbourne Heart then they might actually speak and mention Melbourne Heart's History which is something they make a fairly obvious effort to avoid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 2 hours ago, cadete said: Even all their racehorses' jockeys all around the world race in City Blue... and they won the most horses in the world with stables in several countries. Maybe they will keep our current Away Kit but personally I am not going draw a connection between Melbourne City and Melbourne Heart because of this last minute token gesture. Melbourne City is a new club... hence the fact if they really wanted to show respect to Melbourne Heart then they might actually speak and mention Melbourne Heart's History which is something they make a fairly obvious effort to avoid. Yeah, a shame they fail to mention our Craig Foster Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 2 hours ago, hakz7 said: Yeah, a shame they fail to mention our Craig Foster Cup. what a game that was 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 On 2016-07-05 at 3:24 AM, cadete said: Even all their racehorses' jockeys all around the world race in City Blue... and they won the most horses in the world with stables in several countries. Maybe they will keep our current Away Kit but personally I am not going draw a connection between Melbourne City and Melbourne Heart because of this last minute token gesture. Melbourne City is a new club... hence the fact if they really wanted to show respect to Melbourne Heart then they might actually speak and mention Melbourne Heart's History which is something they make a fairly obvious effort to avoid. Sheikh Mansours stable race in Green and yellow.. You are thinking about the Emir of Dubai whose Godolphin stable race in light blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Fawkner College wearing the new strip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Deeming said: Fawkner College wearing the new strip? I really hope not. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Fucking terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNNaVo93 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Deeming said: Fawkner College wearing the new strip? Horrendous. Plus we were told no navy so I bet it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 1. that kit is awful 2. I should think they would announce it at the seniors before using it at JFC 3. Honestly that would be a PR disaster if they use that much dark blue, I would basically be on the verge of walking away from the club and I am fairly moderate when it comes to the colours situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Just now, CaNNaVo93 said: Horrendous. Plus we were told no navy so I bet it's not Maybe its not 'navy' its a shade of "City Blue" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 16 minutes ago, Deeming said: Fawkner College wearing the new strip? That better not be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illeatyourheart Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Jeez, calm down guize. We've already had it confirmed that the new kit is mostly white. We won't see the team in that monstroCity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 2 hours ago, illeatyourheart said: Jeez, calm down guize. We've already had it confirmed that the new kit is mostly white. We won't see the team in that monstroCity. Not bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) I doubt that's the kit: 1 - random sponsor. If they were wearing the actual Melbourne City kit, they'd use the Etihad sponsorship, but since they're not this is an off-shoot kit 2 - Melbourne City crest on the left, under the Nike symbol, not the right. This is clearly an adaptation 3 - doesn't look like a standard Nike template, especially given that particularly cheap-looking white collar. I'd like to bet that the new Melbourne City kit will be one of the standard Nike templates, like the one half a dozen countries were wearing at Euro 2016. At a guess, it's either a training kit converted for Fawkner's use, or it's a cheap sky blue copycat that they managed to persuade Nike to make for the minimum fee. Edited July 14, 2016 by Falastur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Despite the deserved criticism of the meaning behind the colours - which I agree with - it's actually a really nice kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 18 minutes ago, morphine said: Despite the deserved criticism of the meaning behind the colours - which I agree with - it's actually a really nice kit. Not on here sunshine fuk off with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Apparently just the school's version 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 The darker blue is getting a bit to close to Navy for my liking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, haz said: The darker blue is getting a bit to close to Navy for my liking It's best to try and forget about it. We know by now that CFG doesn't care about what the fans think of "City blue." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFG_82 Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, jw1739 said: It's best to try and forget about it. We know by now that CFG doesn't care about what the fans think of "City blue." I love "City Blue" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I don't mind it. The light blue is gay, anthing darker yet lighter than navy is good for me. I guess this sets up nicely our next announcement, Tim Cahill + new kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozzy Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 hours ago, haz said: The darker blue is getting a bit to close to Navy for my liking I really like that colour, it's still lighter than a royal blue so I'm not worrying about it even being close to a navy blue. We'll still wear a pure sky blue in home kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 That training kit is more or less the colour that Man City used in the 80´s.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 It's isn't navy, but it looks much better than the pale blue we had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityGroupFAN Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Hey guys! New to the forums Quick warning, I am a Melbourne City fan mainly because of the city football group and the conection to Manchester City. Having said that I have watched the last two seasons of the A-league and have really enjoyed them! (oh, I also understand that not all of you will like what the city football group have done to your club but hope you won't hate me to much.) Anyway, I jumped on photoshop and put the Melbourne city badge on the new Manchester city kit. Obviously the kit will not look like this but would be cool to hear your thougts. Edited July 24, 2016 by CityGroupFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, CityGroupFAN said: Hey guys! New to the forums Quick warning, I am a Melbourne City fan mainly because of the city football group and the conection to Manchester City. Having said that I have watched the last two seasons of the A-league and have really enjoyed them! (oh, I also understand that not all of you will like what the city football group have done to your club but hope you won't hate me to much.) Anyway, I jumped on photoshop and put the Melbourne city badge on the new Manchester city kit. Obviously the kit will not look like this but would be cool to hear your thougts. Welcome to the forum. You want to hear honest thoughts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityGroupFAN Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Yeah, honest is fine. I am not particularly attached to it so don't worry about my feelings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 1 minute ago, CityGroupFAN said: Yeah, honest is fine. I am not particularly attached to it so don't worry about my feelings! Tbh I was gonna say it anyway, but it looks like shit. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 no idea why clubs have same coloured shirts and shorts and then different socks, looks stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityGroupFAN Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Fair enough. I wonder what your ideal home kit would look like? (apologies if you have already answered this in the forum) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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