haz Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, Imtellingyou said: If JA is the coach there wouldn't be that many understanding. No worries, Jim Magilton the Second is undeniable authority. I think you are an Intellectual Being from another dimension hence why no one can understand what you are saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, haz said: I think you are an Intellectual Being from another dimension hence why no one can understand what you are saying Either that or he's retarded. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, bt50 said: Either that or he's retarded. Wow did you say the 'r' word?! Thats a big no-no in today's society. CIS WHITE MALE! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 46 minutes ago, Imtellingyou said: If JA is the coach there wouldn't be that many understanding. No worries, Jim Magilton the Second is undeniable authority. I had to do 'English' to English Google translation to work out what your saying and still don't know what the fuck you're talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 You're telling me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just my thoughts on this whole matter, and they're more holistic. How difficult is it to have just one season free from cultural controversies, behavioural issues, mismanagement and half witted decision making? Is that too much to ask for in an organisation that is working day in day out to arrive at the same goal. I mean we hire people to make this process of achieving 'success' possible. How do we get it so wrong everytime. Who is making these decisions that are leading us to a plethora of problems each and every bloody season. I want to know answers to these questions. We may have a new manager, but the smell of rot still exists somewhere within the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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haz Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, n i k o said: I want to know answers to these questions. We may have a new manager, but the smell of rot still exists somewhere within the club. Dont know if it is actully Munn who is to blame (although he is a common denominator). Wouldn't be surprised if a phone convo with Marwood to Munn pretty much goes along the lines of 'Yea everything is fine, no need for changes, our performances will improve we just have some injuries' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Wait, so he has left city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Wait, so he has left city? No! He has left Melbourne United, atleast according to Gold 104 this morning. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Probably off to join Popovic at Karabükspor in Turkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post GreenSeater Posted December 6, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) FWIW I don't buy the "lack of playing time" argument for one moment tbh. I think there is more going on here. Round 1 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes as he was away with the Roos. Round 2 vs Victory. 10 or so minutes off the bench after playing 120 for the roos mid-week. Round 3 vs Wellington. 8 or so minutes off the bench. Team won the week before, no need to shuffle things around too much. Round 4 vs Adelaide. 20 minutss off the bench. Our starting striker scored two goals and he still got 20 minutes. Round 5 vs Sydney. Started and got injured. Withdrawn after 25 minutes. Round 6 vs Wanderers. 0 minutes as unavailable with the Socceroos. Round 7 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes, club listed him as unavailable due to ongoing ankle injury from Sydney game. Round 8 vs Perth. 25 minutes off the bench. Return from injury. Round 9 vs Newcastle. 15 minutes off the bench. This is a striker who has yet to score a goal for us this season. Our other striker is second in the league's golden boot standings. As you can see, he hasn't exactly been fully available, and when he has been he hasn't exactly been doing a lot for us on the park. He even mentioned in his statement yesterday that he is still carrying the ankle injury from the Sydney FC game. The worst part is that the last game he played before his game-time comments he actually started. The playing time argument he makes is bullshit imo and there are reasons behind the scenes that he's leaving. According to his autobiography, Timmy sees himself as a real leader at every club he plays for, and likes to be heavily involved in helping the coaches make decisions. He speaks about how both he and Thierry Henry basically coached New York Red Bulls whilst their manager was just there for looks essentially. There was also a rumour coming out of the City camp last season that JVS had lost the squad and that Cahill was doing basically most of the coaching himself. Now I don't know about you, but Warren Joyce doesn't exactly strike me as the kind of bloke who would want to let a player do most of the decision making for him. He seems like the kind of bloke who would not want his authority questioned. If you ask me, Valkanis got the sack by Marwood and so did Timmy. Edited December 6, 2017 by GreenSeater 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 14 hours ago, jw1739 said: His last four contracts have all ended "by mutual agreement" (or equivalent words). Pattern emerging here ???? this succinctly sums up the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyknuckles Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 My girlfriend was shocked that he left, and that I wasn't overly concerned with it. I told her that he hasn't scored a goal this season and she couldn't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, bumpyknuckles said: I told her that he hasn't touched the ball this season and she couldn't believe it. Fixed for you mate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, GreenSeater said: FWIW I don't buy the "lack of playing time" argument for one moment tbh. I think there is more going on here. Round 1 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes as he was away with the Roos. Round 2 vs Victory. 10 or so minutes off the bench after playing 120 for the roos mid-week. Round 3 vs Wellington. 8 or so minutes off the bench. Team won the week before, no need to shuffle things around too much. Round 4 vs Adelaide. 20 minutss off the bench. Our starting striker scored two goals and he still got 20 minutes. Round 5 vs Sydney. Started and got injured. Withdrawn after 25 minutes. Round 6 vs Wanderers. 0 minutes as unavailable with the Socceroos. Round 7 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes, club listed him as unavailable due to ongoing ankle injury from Sydney game. Round 8 vs Perth. 25 minutes off the bench. Return from injury. Round 9 vs Newcastle. 15 minutes off the bench. This is a striker who has yet to score a goal for us this season. Our other striker is second in the league's golden boot standings. As you can see, he hasn't exactly been fully available, and when he has been he hasn't exactly been doing a lot for us on the park. He even mentioned in his statement yesterday that he is still carrying the ankle injury from the Sydney FC game. The worst part is that the last game he played before his game-time comments he actually started. The playing time argument he makes is bullshit imo and there are reasons behind the scenes that he's leaving. According to his autobiography, Timmy sees himself as a real leader at every club he plays for, and likes to be heavily involved in helping the coaches make decisions. He speaks about how both he and Thierry Henry basically coached New York Red Bulls whilst their manager was just there for looks essentially. There was also a rumour coming out of the City camp last season that JVS had lost the squad and that Cahill was doing basically most of the coaching himself. Now I don't know about you, but Warren Joyce doesn't exactly strike me as the kind of bloke who would want to let a player do most of the decision making for him. He seems like the kind of bloke who would not want his authority questioned. If you ask me, Valkanis got the sack by Marwood and so did Timmy. Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, GreenSeater said: FWIW I don't buy the "lack of playing time" argument for one moment tbh. I think there is more going on here. Round 1 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes as he was away with the Roos. Round 2 vs Victory. 10 or so minutes off the bench after playing 120 for the roos mid-week. Round 3 vs Wellington. 8 or so minutes off the bench. Team won the week before, no need to shuffle things around too much. Round 4 vs Adelaide. 20 minutss off the bench. Our starting striker scored two goals and he still got 20 minutes. Round 5 vs Sydney. Started and got injured. Withdrawn after 25 minutes. Round 6 vs Wanderers. 0 minutes as unavailable with the Socceroos. Round 7 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes, club listed him as unavailable due to ongoing ankle injury from Sydney game. Round 8 vs Perth. 25 minutes off the bench. Return from injury. Round 9 vs Newcastle. 15 minutes off the bench. This is a striker who has yet to score a goal for us this season. Our other striker is second in the league's golden boot standings. As you can see, he hasn't exactly been fully available, and when he has been he hasn't exactly been doing a lot for us on the park. He even mentioned in his statement yesterday that he is still carrying the ankle injury from the Sydney FC game. The worst part is that the last game he played before his game-time comments he actually started. The playing time argument he makes is bullshit imo and there are reasons behind the scenes that he's leaving. According to his autobiography, Timmy sees himself as a real leader at every club he plays for, and likes to be heavily involved in helping the coaches make decisions. He speaks about how both he and Thierry Henry basically coached New York Red Bulls whilst their manager was just there for looks essentially. There was also a rumour coming out of the City camp last season that JVS had lost the squad and that Cahill was doing basically most of the coaching himself. Now I don't know about you, but Warren Joyce doesn't exactly strike me as the kind of bloke who would want to let a player do most of the decision making for him. He seems like the kind of bloke who would not want his authority questioned. If you ask me, Valkanis got the sack by Marwood and so did Timmy. Whether that last part of your post is true or not that's an excellent post. Well done sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, GreenSeater said: FWIW I don't buy the "lack of playing time" argument for one moment tbh. I think there is more going on here. Round 1 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes as he was away with the Roos. Round 2 vs Victory. 10 or so minutes off the bench after playing 120 for the roos mid-week. Round 3 vs Wellington. 8 or so minutes off the bench. Team won the week before, no need to shuffle things around too much. Round 4 vs Adelaide. 20 minutss off the bench. Our starting striker scored two goals and he still got 20 minutes. Round 5 vs Sydney. Started and got injured. Withdrawn after 25 minutes. Round 6 vs Wanderers. 0 minutes as unavailable with the Socceroos. Round 7 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes, club listed him as unavailable due to ongoing ankle injury from Sydney game. Round 8 vs Perth. 25 minutes off the bench. Return from injury. Round 9 vs Newcastle. 15 minutes off the bench. This is a striker who has yet to score a goal for us this season. Our other striker is second in the league's golden boot standings. As you can see, he hasn't exactly been fully available, and when he has been he hasn't exactly been doing a lot for us on the park. He even mentioned in his statement yesterday that he is still carrying the ankle injury from the Sydney FC game. The worst part is that the last game he played before his game-time comments he actually started. The playing time argument he makes is bullshit imo and there are reasons behind the scenes that he's leaving. According to his autobiography, Timmy sees himself as a real leader at every club he plays for, and likes to be heavily involved in helping the coaches make decisions. He speaks about how both he and Thierry Henry basically coached New York Red Bulls whilst their manager was just there for looks essentially. There was also a rumour coming out of the City camp last season that JVS had lost the squad and that Cahill was doing basically most of the coaching himself. Now I don't know about you, but Warren Joyce doesn't exactly strike me as the kind of bloke who would want to let a player do most of the decision making for him. He seems like the kind of bloke who would not want his authority questioned. If you ask me, Valkanis got the sack by Marwood and so did Timmy. It was the "my players" comments last season that told me exactly what you say above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 hours ago, GreenSeater said: FWIW I don't buy the "lack of playing time" argument for one moment tbh. I think there is more going on here. Round 1 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes as he was away with the Roos. Round 2 vs Victory. 10 or so minutes off the bench after playing 120 for the roos mid-week. Round 3 vs Wellington. 8 or so minutes off the bench. Team won the week before, no need to shuffle things around too much. Round 4 vs Adelaide. 20 minutss off the bench. Our starting striker scored two goals and he still got 20 minutes. Round 5 vs Sydney. Started and got injured. Withdrawn after 25 minutes. Round 6 vs Wanderers. 0 minutes as unavailable with the Socceroos. Round 7 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes, club listed him as unavailable due to ongoing ankle injury from Sydney game. Round 8 vs Perth. 25 minutes off the bench. Return from injury. Round 9 vs Newcastle. 15 minutes off the bench. . Also add into that in 2 of the games he came off bench we were down to 10 men, not very often your rush to put an extra striker on when this happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Timmy is still too good player to be on the bench in Aleague for any club. Even for the top two least successful club which ironically got only trophy by his goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 I can't find the post but a GREEN LINE has to go to the person who mentioned a week or so ago that Timmy had put his house in Lower Plenty up for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 You have to suspect that Marwood gave him his marching orders, and to allow Timmy (and the club) to save face, the split was sold as amicable, a week or so later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXCiTyZeNXx Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 15 hours ago, HeartFc said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Completely agree with @GreenSeater “If you ask me, Valkanis got the sack by Marwood and so did Timmy.” Pretty much what I’d been thinking given that both sackings happened as Marwood visited recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) @GreenSeater Hope you don't mind, I grabbed that info you put together regarding Timmys whereabouts each round to rebut some flogs arguement on 442 Edited December 7, 2017 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, n i k o said: @GreenSeater Hope you don't mind, I grabbed that info you put together regarding Timmys whereabouts each round to rebut some flogs arguement on 442 I dont know why you bother on there, I watch your struggles every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, n i k o said: @GreenSeater Hope you don't mind, I grabbed that info you put together regarding Timmys whereabouts each round to rebut some flogs arguement on 442 I wish I'd had it to hand yesterday when trying to make the same point on the Guardian, probably to the same flog. Still he resorted to shouting bullshit so that's a win to me. Ps, I noticed I'd got a few likes overnight, so if that was any of you mob, thank you. 8 hours ago, GreenSeater said: FWIW I don't buy the "lack of playing time" argument for one moment tbh. I think there is more going on here. Round 1 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes as he was away with the Roos. Round 2 vs Victory. 10 or so minutes off the bench after playing 120 for the roos mid-week. Round 3 vs Wellington. 8 or so minutes off the bench. Team won the week before, no need to shuffle things around too much. Round 4 vs Adelaide. 20 minutss off the bench. Our starting striker scored two goals and he still got 20 minutes. Round 5 vs Sydney. Started and got injured. Withdrawn after 25 minutes. Round 6 vs Wanderers. 0 minutes as unavailable with the Socceroos. Round 7 vs Brisbane. 0 minutes, club listed him as unavailable due to ongoing ankle injury from Sydney game. Round 8 vs Perth. 25 minutes off the bench. Return from injury. Round 9 vs Newcastle. 15 minutes off the bench. This is a striker who has yet to score a goal for us this season. Our other striker is second in the league's golden boot standings. As you can see, he hasn't exactly been fully available, and when he has been he hasn't exactly been doing a lot for us on the park. He even mentioned in his statement yesterday that he is still carrying the ankle injury from the Sydney FC game. The worst part is that the last game he played before his game-time comments he actually started. The playing time argument he makes is bullshit imo and there are reasons behind the scenes that he's leaving. According to his autobiography, Timmy sees himself as a real leader at every club he plays for, and likes to be heavily involved in helping the coaches make decisions. He speaks about how both he and Thierry Henry basically coached New York Red Bulls whilst their manager was just there for looks essentially. There was also a rumour coming out of the City camp last season that JVS had lost the squad and that Cahill was doing basically most of the coaching himself. Now I don't know about you, but Warren Joyce doesn't exactly strike me as the kind of bloke who would want to let a player do most of the decision making for him. He seems like the kind of bloke who would not want his authority questioned. If you ask me, Valkanis got the sack by Marwood and so did Timmy. Stonking post GS. Makes a lot of sense. That and the fact that the big money had run out. Wazza is the gaffer. Love it or leave. Edited December 7, 2017 by fensaddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, haz said: I dont know why you bother on there, I watch your struggles every day. Gives me a rush haz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/aleague-confidential-tim-cahill-paid-melbourne-city-to-leave-socceroos-friendly-against-usa/news-story/6c4a9ede97764b9ed9e3e28454f6aa02 States that tim paid us back a sum north of 500k and approaching a mil to get released. Very happy with all outcomes now tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, bt50 said: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/aleague-confidential-tim-cahill-paid-melbourne-city-to-leave-socceroos-friendly-against-usa/news-story/6c4a9ede97764b9ed9e3e28454f6aa02 States that tim paid us back a sum north of 500k and approaching a mil to get released. Very happy with all outcomes now tbh. Any chance of posting the article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jovan said: Any chance of posting the article? Ah yeh will when i get back home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Hard to score from the bench. Obvious that Joyce is the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rasputin said: Hard to score from the bench. Obvious that Joyce is the problem Did Waz fuck your girl or something? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, haz said: Did Waz fuck your girl or something? Think you'll find that was Nicholas II. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, bt50 said: Think you'll find that was Nicholas II. The Russian Tsar? ich verstehe nicht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Think you'll find that was Nicholas II. 1 hour ago, haz said: The Russian Tsar? ich verstehe nicht Wow 2 hours later and I finally understand the joke ha+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Rasputin said: Hard to score from the bench. Obvious that Joyce is the problem Joyce us the solution Cahill was the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 11 hours ago, Jovan said: Any chance of posting the article? HOW much did Tim Cahill want to get out of Melbourne City? Enough to fork out a substantial six-figure sum to make sure it happened. Desperate to secure a move to a club where he would play enough to stay in Socceroos reckoning, we hear Cahill agreed to refund a sum north of $500,000 to City, and possibly approaching $1m, in compensation for the fact his salary was heavily front-loaded on what had originally been a three-year contract. Tim Cahill’s hip pocket is half-a-million dollars lighter. It says everything about Cahill’s determination to play at another World Cup that he didn’t baulk at agreeing to the terms, securing a release immediately. Both parties were glad to see the ill-feeling of recent days brought to a head. ANALYSIS: Where to next for Tim Cahill? We understand relations between Cahill and the club had deteriorated so rapidly, to the point that Cahill’s “bombshell” decision to leave City hardly came as much of a surprise to the club. Article is by Tom Smithies and Carly Adno so i'd suggest its reasonably reliable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 hours ago, bt50 said: HOW much did Tim Cahill want to get out of Melbourne City? Enough to fork out a substantial six-figure sum to make sure it happened. Desperate to secure a move to a club where he would play enough to stay in Socceroos reckoning, we hear Cahill agreed to refund a sum north of $500,000 to City, and possibly approaching $1m, in compensation for the fact his salary was heavily front-loaded on what had originally been a three-year contract. Tim Cahill’s hip pocket is half-a-million dollars lighter. It says everything about Cahill’s determination to play at another World Cup that he didn’t baulk at agreeing to the terms, securing a release immediately. Both parties were glad to see the ill-feeling of recent days brought to a head. ANALYSIS: Where to next for Tim Cahill? We understand relations between Cahill and the club had deteriorated so rapidly, to the point that Cahill’s “bombshell” decision to leave City hardly came as much of a surprise to the club. Article is by Tom Smithies and Carly Adno so i'd suggest its reasonably reliable. Bullshit. He was told to walk. Bombshell? What bombshell. Wazza is there to set us up for the future by developing the team and Tim's attitude stunk and was resisting what Wazza was sent there to do. Tim was so self centred about playing in the world cup that he wanted to be a priority which he wasn't and nor he should be. Marwood came and probably said that Wazza's decisions are the ones that matter and to do what he is told. Tim didn't agree and Marwood said pay half of your front ended contract or you will be training on your own and not get any game time at all. Why to I think this? Because I would have done exactly the same thing if I was Marwood. Self centred big mouth got exactly what he deserved. NO PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB COME ON CITY!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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