Jovan Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, playmaker said: Just having a think about tactics and Leicester City came to mind. Our player list is set up for this style of play. Fast flankers, good central defensive control and dynamic creative finishing options. Very good player list for a counter attacking flat 442, or 352 with attacking wingbacks with 2 DMs. A serious 2 prong attacking threat really allows flexibility. Problem is that's contra to the clubs philosophy of playing good possession based attacking football. I expect we will see a cockup of both ideals and chasing our tails followed by a whole list of excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, Jovan said: Problem is that's contra to the clubs philosophy of playing good possession based attacking football. I expect we will see a cockup of both ideals and chasing our tails followed by a whole list of excuses. Yeah, I have a feeling that if JVS doesn't perform early he will be gone within a 5 rounds. CFG won't put up with that crap given the list he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Clearly it must have been tough on JVS, having such a balanced team and then having to convert players to other positions and what not. I actually feel sorry for him, but glad there's light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully now he is able to put together a squad so unbalanced that it will suit his coaching style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 #yoofpolicy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Fucking pumped that we have him. The whole thing falls apart however if we can't find a good replacement for mooy too however. We've got enough people in the team now who can finish, just need to find players who can give them good service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 4 hours ago, playmaker said: The best aerial threat and best ground threat in the A league......... Can't ask for much more in the box, don't you think? Well its getting the ball on to Tim's head that is the problem. I don't think the National Curriculum is yet up to Chapter 3: Putting In a Cross that doesn't fly 15 feet over the crossbar and hits the corner flag on the full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I'm really mystified as to what his football contribution will be on the field especially if we keep Novillo. Undoubtedly we could have signed a much more effective player for $3 million who would have fitted into our style of play without major compromises. I can't see us getting value from Cahill playing him off the bench and really his signing leaves little place for players like Novillo and where/how will we play Gamiero and Kamau as Cahill will have no place in a 4-3-3 apart from Bruno's position. We need a far better coach that JVS to make this work, not just tactically but the man management in the team will be critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, belaguttman said: I'm really mystified as to what his football contribution will be on the field especially if we keep Novillo. Undoubtedly we could have signed a much more effective player for $3 million who would have fitted into our style of play without major compromises. I can't see us getting value from Cahill playing him off the bench and really his signing leaves little place for players like Novillo and where/how will we play Gamiero and Kamau as Cahill will have no place in a 4-3-3 apart from Bruno's position. We need a far better coach that JVS to make this work, not just tactically but the man management in the team will be critical. I think this means Novillo is gone (Unfortunately). Cahill signing if confirmed as the 3rd Marquee or loan or whatever you want to call it can only be seen as a bonus. But ultimately how to structure a well balanced efficient side is the 3 million dollar question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 The success of the marketing ultimately depends on the success of the product. If the team doesn't work on and off the field then he'll make as much impact as Kewell did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Jovan said: I think this means Novillo is gone (Unfortunately). Cahill signing if confirmed as the 3rd Marquee or loan or whatever you want to call it can only be seen as a bonus. But ultimately how to structure a well balanced efficient side is the 3 million dollar question. Clearly Cahill is going to be playing full back. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 41 minutes ago, belaguttman said: I'm really mystified as to what his football contribution will be on the field especially if we keep Novillo. Undoubtedly we could have signed a much more effective player for $3 million who would have fitted into our style of play without major compromises. I can't see us getting value from Cahill playing him off the bench and really his signing leaves little place for players like Novillo and where/how will we play Gamiero and Kamau as Cahill will have no place in a 4-3-3 apart from Bruno's position. We need a far better coach that JVS to make this work, not just tactically but the man management in the team will be critical. How bout a 4-4-2 mate surely that or a different formation of that would work. With Kamau and fitzy flying down the wings and providing for cahill while bruno can be picked out if everyone freaks and trys to stop cahill or vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, HeartOfCity said: How bout a 4-4-2 mate surely that or a different formation of that would work. With Kamau and fitzy flying down the wings and providing for cahill while bruno can be picked out if everyone freaks and trys to stop cahill or vice versa. Exactly right. That's obviously what the recruitment was about. Bratten, Caseres, Melling, marquee controlling the centre, Fitzy, Ivan, Kamou, Novillo controlling the flanks, and up front Timmy controlling the air and Bruno controlling the ground. Don't know why some people are so confused about it as its so obvious what tactical advantage and flexibility is created with Timmy. Whether he plays in a deeper position like AMF or a CF or a ST it doesn't matter as he will be there to control the air and decoy defenders to create space for Bruno as others have already stated. The flexibility Timmy brings to our structure and tactics is fantastic. But you are right, as starting with a flat 442 or flat 4411 would be smart choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) FWIW about 40% of my opposition to us signing him was because he would take up a marquee spot (the other 60% is because he is a flog), and I think some of the fact that he is a flog can be made up for by the fact this signing will piss off other teams' fans since we get a 3rd marquee. So overall I think I can accept this signing given the rule change enabling it (still guess I have to follow through and cancel my membership though). Edited June 17, 2016 by Tesla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Other clubs including FFA are supporting the idea of City rolling out 3rd marque as well as 3m+ salary for Cahill. they will not stand in the way of CFG As long as jvs is retained in his role indefinitely Edited June 17, 2016 by Jestr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Tesla said: FWIW about 40% of my opposition to us signing him was because he would take up a marquee spot (the other 60% is because he is a flog), and I think some of the fact that he is a flog can be made up for by the fact this signing will piss off other teams' fans since we get a 3rd marquee. So overall I think I can accept this signing given the rule change enabling it (still guess I have to follow through and cancel my membership though). From what I've read the fans of other aleague teams generally don't have an issue with him coming to us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Jestr said: City rolling out 3rd marque as well as 3m+ salary for Cahill. Certainly sounds like a tempting vision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, n i k o said: From what I've read the fans of other aleague teams generally don't have an issue with him coming to us. Because they know we still won't win any silverware because of who's still in charge of our team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 What are the odds of Sydney swooping in with a last minute offer ala Lucas Neill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Quote Socceroos legend Tim Cahill set to sign A-League deal with Melbourne City - which could earn him $6 MILLION Tim Cahill has been linked with a move to A-League side Melbourne City. Celebrity agent Max Markson believes Cahill could earn $6m for the move Cahill could also have his own show and would be the face of the league By CAMERON PHELPS FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA and AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS s Tim Cahill is on the verge of finally making the leap to the A-League with Melbourne City and celebrity agent Max Markson believes he could earn as much as six million dollars a year. Cahill, 36, is currently playing for Hangzhou Greentown in China, but with the club struggling this season, it is unlikely the club will take up an option to retain him when the transfer window opens on Monday, according to News Corp Australia. Melbourne City have been negotiating with the Socceroos forward for the past few months, and a major roadblock was removed last week when Football Federation Australia (FFA) allowed guest stints from stars to last for an entire season. City, backed by English premier league giants, Manchester City, have the financial backing that would allow them to meet the salary demands of the Socceroos' leading all-time goalscorer. Markson believes that Cahill would become the face of Football in Australia and the FFA would pull out all their tricks to bag the star attacking midfielder. 'I think Cahill will land a deal with the Melbourne City and the FFA will make him the face of football in Australia and also part of his deal will involve Foxtel,' Markson told Daily Mail Australia. 'The deal would be around six million dollars, I think he will be the six million dollar man.' Markson also said that Cahill could have his own TV show and his signing would signal a new era of football in Australia. 'We need marquee players and signing a guy who is the best in Australia and still at the top of his game would do that,' Markson said. 'Cahill signing would attract other international talent and make the game stronger and more appealing.' It is believed Cahill has also attracted interest from a number of other Chinese clubs, as well as some from the US and England. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3645923/Celebrity-agent-Max-Markson-believes-Tim-Cahills-League-net-six-million-dollars-TV-show.html#ixzz4BsM9O21L http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3645923/Celebrity-agent-Max-Markson-believes-Tim-Cahills-League-net-six-million-dollars-TV-show.html I wonder how much of that "$6 mil" is split between us, FFA and Foxtel? Either way if the article is correct in saying that Cahill will become the face of football in Australia and even have his own tv show, as long as he is wearing his City kit, it can only be good exposure for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Finally we could have someone to match Archie. Not up there peaking the heights on the flog meter as Archie does but at least he will be our 6m flog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Jestr said: Finally we could have someone to match Archie. Not up there peaking the heights on the flog meter as Archie does but at least he will be our 6m flog Does Timmy beat his wife too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) I'm not against us/the league taking advantage of the change in the guest player rule if we can benefit from it - but is Cahill really worth $6m for one season when people reckon that at most he will add 1000-2000 to our membership numbers? And I'm saying that knowing we won't foot the whole bill. Also I'm beginning to get irritated that all the focus seems to be on just one player, and I hope it isn't because we won't win the league that way. We need a team that plays for the shirt not just a star player. Edited June 18, 2016 by jw1739 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 A part from dwight Yorke in the first season, I don't think any team has won the league with a big name marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: I'm not against us/the league taking advantage of the change in the guest player rule if we can benefit from it - but is Cahill really worth $6m for one season when people reckon that at most he will add 1000-2000 to our membership numbers? And I'm saying that knowing we won't foot the whole bill. Also I'm beginning to get irritated that all the focus seems to be on just one player, and I hope it isn't because we won't win the league that way. We need a team that plays for the shirt not just a star player. of course he's not worth $6 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC22 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Reckon we'll get the Timmy and new kit reveal in the one photo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 30 minutes ago, JC22 said: Reckon we'll get the Timmy and new kit reveal in the one photo. I think you might be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 31 minutes ago, JC22 said: Reckon we'll get the Timmy and new kit reveal in the one photo. might be dreaming but what about: Timmy, Bruno (re-signed), and New Marquee all in the new kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: I think you might be right Greek construction worker come Serbian hairdresser strikes again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 23 hours ago, playmaker said: Just having a think about tactics and Leicester City came to mind. Our player list is set up for this style of play. Fast flankers, good central defensive control and dynamic creative finishing options. Very good player list for a counter attacking flat 442, or 352 with attacking wingbacks with 2 DMs. A serious 2 prong attacking threat really allows flexibility. We need some good crosses of the ball now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, Dylan said: Greek construction worker come Serbian hairdresser strikes again? Serbian hairdresser has been providing the goods this off season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Serbian hairdresser has been providing the goods this off season And some good football info too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 41 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Serbian hairdresser has been providing the goods this off season Said anything about Bruno as marquee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Not sure if this is derivative or new reporting: Tim Cahill on verge of signing for Melbourne City Socceroo legend to join City Posted: 17 June, 2016 by Triple M One of Australian soccer’s worst kept secrets looks likely to be confirmed next week when Tim Cahill signs for Melbourne City. Both the Herald Sun and The Australian report this morning that the Socceroos’ all-time record goal-scorer is coming home to play in the A-League from next season. [...] http://www.triplem.com.au/classic-rock/sport/soccer/latest/2016/tim-cahill-on-verge-of-signing-for-melbourne-city/ It's seemingly based on yesterday's newspaper articles. Also, next week would make sense as Cahill's contract with his Chinese club expires on Monday, so I guess he could be announced as early as Monday next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingawesomeness Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 38 minutes ago, Murfy1 said: Also, next week would make sense as Cahill's contract with his Chinese club expires on Monday, so I guess he could be announced as early as Monday next week. Cahill signed a 5 month contract with Greentown around Feb 20, so he still has another month on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I'm not thrilled personally. Fornaroli doesn't go with him, we'll have to play hoofball again and can spend that amount of money on a better player. Cahill was my favourite sportsman in the world 10 years ago, but has slowly turned into a snobby prick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Oh god no please don't give him a TV show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Tesla said: Oh god no please don't give him a TV show. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) This is gonna be a circus tbh, which I don't mind if it was good for the club or the league, and to a certain degree it is but I also really don't think it's that good. This kind of money and effort should go into getting someone straight from a top EPL club or a top Champions League club, that's what will bring all the euro snobs to games. Maybe Tim Cahill could have done it years ago, and he we still have some effect now, but not enough to justify all this over the top crap. There are a fuckload of football fans in this country, most unfortunately don't care about the a-league, and Cahill isn't changing that. Fortunately for Cahill the FFA's vision is too small, could have doubled the money on offer and brought in someone who would completely revolutionise the a-league like Beckham did for the MLS. Basically someone like Villa but who actually stays the season,and Cahill is not going to have the effect of Villa. Edited June 18, 2016 by Tesla 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Can't wait to get my very own Tim cahill shirt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Tesla said: This is gonna be a circus tbh, which I don't mind if it was good for the club or the league, and to a certain degree it is but I also really don't think it's that good. This kind of money and effort should go into getting someone straight from a top EPL club or a top Champions League club, that's what will bring all the euro snobs to games. Maybe Tim Cahill could have done it years ago, and he we still have some effect now, but not enough to justify all this over the top crap. There are a fuckload of football fans in this country, most unfortunately don't care about the a-league, and Cahill isn't changing that. Fortunately for Cahill the FFA's vision is too small, could have doubled the money on offer and brought in someone who would completely revolutionise the a-league like Beckham did for the MLS. Basically someone like Villa but who actually stays the season,and Cahill is not going to have the effect of Villa. This is my worry. I honestly don't think he will generate the hype that is suggested. We could have done a whole lot better for the money. However this is what FFA think is good for the A-league and they have been willing to change the rules to allow us to have effectively 3 marquee players. So long as he doesn't stuff up the structure of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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