malloy Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 hours ago, KSK_47 said: So I finally did it. After being a member since day one, I have cancelled my membership. Not in a sooky tantrumy kind of way. I moved interstate so won't be attending games and just don't feel all that passionately about this club so decided it was time. *Now I am not a member I bet city win every game and play like Barcelona from now on Thank you in advance, but me thinks its really @haz we need to get rid of. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, malloy said: Thank you in advance, but me thinks its really @haz we need to get rid of. Good news, I might not be able to watch the game at all on Sunday. Will be out in the Bavarian countryside instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, haz said: Good news, I might not be able to watch the game at all on Sunday. Will be out in the Bavarian countryside instead. Still not far enough away my friend, can you go further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Still not far enough away my friend, can you go further? Ill book a flight to iceland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, haz said: Ill book a flight to iceland I was thinking Lapland. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, haz said: Ill book a flight to iceland Watch out for those elves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, n i k o said: Watch out for those elves Ill cook them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 16 hours ago, malloy said: Thank you in advance, but me thinks its really @haz we need to get rid of. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Looks like the fan surveys have started again. Anyone else receive an e-mail inviting participation. Same stuff - all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Looks like the fan surveys have started again. Anyone else receive an e-mail inviting participation. Same stuff - all over again. Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Got FA and I'm a foundation member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 I got one yesterday and filled out with disgust about our play and stadium sh**e let them have it both barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Pretty sure when i was talking to a memberships guru he said that they send out around 100 surveys each month to different memebers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 05/03/2018 at 1:05 PM, Tony999 said: Got FA and I'm a foundation member Munn made it clear they try to make sure they survey different members every month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) Final tally for the season - 11,259 Edited April 3, 2018 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Final tally for the season - 11, 529. Was our goal 15k or 20k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, haz said: Was our goal 15k or 20k? Sorry, my bad. Total should have been 11,259. IIRC there's a statement by Munn somewhere about 15k. Given that the number includes all the specials that were offered after full-season memberships were no longer value for money (November 2017, when the membership was about 10,270) it's a long way below target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Sorry, my bad. Total should have been 11,259. IIRC there's a statement by Munn somewhere about 15k. Given that the number includes all the specials that were offered after full-season memberships were no longer value for money (November 2017, when the membership was about 10,270) it's a long way below target. Yep, ~4000 is not a huge number but when you take into account that we would have to increased members by ~33%, then you can see how much the club failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 FWIW I think the damage was done last season. Anything this season will be recovery mode. Big if, if we make third, ACL and a final, we might see a difference in sentiment, because the club will have begun to deliver on expectation. At our best this season we've looked genuinely good. Conversely, and as usual, there haven't been enough of those good performances, back to back and consistently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, fensaddler said: FWIW I think the damage was done last season. Anything this season will be recovery mode. Big if, if we make third, ACL and a final, we might see a difference in sentiment, because the club will have begun to deliver on expectation. At our best this season we've looked genuinely good. Conversely, and as usual, there haven't been enough of those good performances, back to back and consistently. You also have to factor in the % drop across the league too in member numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, haz said: You also have to factor in the % drop across the league too in member numbers Indeed. FFA have hardly come to the party this season in terms of marketing or promotion, and that 'made in the a league' promotion has been pretty lame. FFA not bold enough, and focused on internal issues have let the A league rot on the vine. Plus, Sydney... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Indeed. FFA have hardly come to the party this season in terms of marketing or promotion, and that 'made in the a league' promotion has been pretty lame. FFA not bold enough, and focused on internal issues have let the A league rot on the vine. Plus, Sydney... The league is dying. And not until Frank dies too, then we will get no where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 I'm quite impressed with our membership tally if not a little suprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 48 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Indeed. FFA have hardly come to the party this season in terms of marketing or promotion, and that 'made in the a league' promotion has been pretty lame. FFA not bold enough, and focused on internal issues have let the A league rot on the vine. Plus, Sydney... Seriously, looking at those players in the commercial that were made in the A-league, why would you sign up to any membership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, haz said: You also have to factor in the % drop across the league too in member numbers Not necessarily. Which club has had an increase in attendance this season? Jets. Which team has played exciting football this season (except against us)? Jets. The attendance drop reflects the lack of engagement by the League as a whole plus the lack of excitement on the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, fensaddler said: Indeed. FFA have hardly come to the party this season in terms of marketing or promotion, and that 'made in the a league' promotion has been pretty lame. FFA not bold enough, and focused on internal issues have let the A league rot on the vine. Plus, Sydney... I wonder whether "marketing and promotion" actually makes a lot of difference? Seems to me that you're either "into football" or you're not. I can get people to go to A-League matches sometimes, provided I use my vouchers to get them a free ticket or they use my wife's membership card if she can't go, or use some other freebie, but none so far have ever expressed any interest in membership (even though "City Blue" is ridiculously cheap compared with other entertainment options) and none would think of going to a match of their own volition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Not necessarily. Which club has had an increase in attendance this season? Jets. Which team has played exciting football this season (except against us)? Jets. The attendance drop reflects the lack of engagement by the League as a whole plus the lack of excitement on the pitch Yea we hear this every season. I just want us to win, I dont care if we have 5 people attending or 50,000. I just want us to be succesful. Crowd numbers always annoy me because in my opionion (maybe unpopular) crowd numbers are just a media and corporate statistic. Last season league average was around 12,500 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-League_attendance) In comparison with some European leagues (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/5xvzjq/average_attendance_top_20_european_leagues/) (sorry not the best source) we are higher then the Portugal, Belgium, Russia, and Swiss leagues. But are our teams better then theirs? I would say no. Pretty much what Im trying to say is from my perspective as a regular supporter of a football team, I want success, I couldnt give a rat's arse about how many people turn up to a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, haz said: Yea we hear this every season. I just want us to win, I dont care if we have 5 people attending or 50,000. I just want us to be succesful. Crowd numbers always annoy me because in my opionion (maybe unpopular) crowd numbers are just a media and corporate statistic. Last season league average was around 12,500 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-League_attendance) In comparison with some European leagues (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/5xvzjq/average_attendance_top_20_european_leagues/) (sorry not the best source) we are higher then the Portugal, Belgium, Russia, and Swiss leagues. But are our teams better then theirs? I would say no. Pretty much what Im trying to say is from my perspective as a regular supporter of a football team, I want success, I couldnt give a rat's arse about how many people turn up to a game. They're often used as a pissing contest between the various sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 hours ago, fensaddler said: FWIW I think the damage was done last season. Anything this season will be recovery mode. Big if, if we make third, ACL and a final, we might see a difference in sentiment, because the club will have begun to deliver on expectation. At our best this season we've looked genuinely good. Conversely, and as usual, there haven't been enough of those good performances, back to back and consistently. I agree with this. Last season's capitulation was so dire that we really needed to start well. We started with 4 wins, normally enough, that the football itself was so dire that it set the tone for our season in the sports marketplace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 2012/13: 6,583. 2013/14: 7,315. 2014/15: 11,759. 2015/16: 9,490 2016/17: 13,078 2017/18: 11,259. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, jw1739 said: They're often used as a pissing contest between the various sports. Haha my wording for that is always 'A dick swinging contest' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 hours ago, haz said: Yea we hear this every season. I just want us to win, I dont care if we have 5 people attending or 50,000. I just want us to be succesful. Crowd numbers always annoy me because in my opionion (maybe unpopular) crowd numbers are just a media and corporate statistic. Last season league average was around 12,500 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-League_attendance) In comparison with some European leagues (https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/5xvzjq/average_attendance_top_20_european_leagues/) (sorry not the best source) we are higher then the Portugal, Belgium, Russia, and Swiss leagues. But are our teams better then theirs? I would say no. Pretty much what Im trying to say is from my perspective as a regular supporter of a football team, I want success, I couldnt give a rat's arse about how many people turn up to a game. If winning was everything then the smurfs would have full stadia. They don't The football is suffocating to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, belaguttman said: If winning was everything then the smurfs would have full stadia. They don't The football is suffocating to watch Yep thats my point. I just want our team to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: 2012/13: 6,583. 2013/14: 7,315. 2014/15: 11,759. 2015/16: 9,490 2016/17: 13,078 2017/18: 11,259. Suspect that 16/17 was a result of the exciting football we played in 15/16, plus Cahill. 17/18 is back a bit because 16/17 was so disappointing. A good finish to this season will help next, but we might not fully recoup the Cahill effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, haz said: Yep thats my point. I just want our team to win. ...with some panache 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, belaguttman said: ...with some panache Haha true true Idk about you though but I was more then happy when we won 4/4 at the start of the season. Mind you I didnt watch a single one of those games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) IMO our draw this season kept families with younger kids away. Once FFA are toppled and the clubs get more control of the product, the game will start to grow again. Edited April 5, 2018 by Torn Asunder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 On 03/04/2018 at 8:28 PM, jw1739 said: 2012/13: 6,583. 2013/14: 7,315. 2014/15: 11,759. 2015/16: 9,490 2016/17: 13,078 2017/18: 11,259. It's interesting that people say a big name won't bring spectators when those figures indicate the opposite. 2014/15 David Villa 2016/17 TC Without those two "aberrations" one could almost see a steady increase. 6-7-8-9-10-11 thousand - or do I have rose coloured glasses? The final a-league.com.au "membership" is 118,418 (up 1,300) with most clubs showing an increase. It's only Adelaide who dropped by 3,000 us (2,000) and WSW (1,000) who kept it down. Funnily enough the Aloisi factor saw Brisbane's membership jump by 2,300. Heartening, but the total a-league membership could still be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, mjake1234 said: It's interesting that people say a big name won't bring spectators when those figures indicate the opposite. 2014/15 David Villa 2016/17 TC Without those two "aberrations" one could almost see a steady increase. 6-7-8-9-10-11 thousand - or do I have rose coloured glasses? The final a-league.com.au "membership" is 118,418 (up 1,300) with most clubs showing an increase. It's only Adelaide who dropped by 3,000 us (2,000) and WSW (1,000) who kept it down. Funnily enough the Aloisi factor saw Brisbane's membership jump by 2,300. Heartening, but the total a-league membership could still be better. No, people say that the numbers won't be sustained without on-field success, which the immediate dip when those players leave/the sheen wears off would suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever City Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Not bad IMO considering the off field issues plaguing our game and a lack of a real " marquee" player. But Sydney FC shows us that winning isn't everything in regards to Membership and attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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