jw1739 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 What should be debated is why there seem to be so many children these days deemed to either be "on the autism spectrum" or supposedly having ADHD. It seems like an epidemic. Methinks much of it is over-diagnosis. I can't begin to think of the potential long-term effects of pumping drugs into these young kids at ages such as 6-8. Maybe what's needed is a bit more of the "Sit down, shut up, and face the blackboard." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 TTDIM: On a cold day like this, going to open your lunchbox for recess and finding a piece of yiayia's piping hot spanakopita. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: What should be debated is why there seem to be so many children these days deemed to either be "on the autism spectrum" or supposedly having ADHD. It seems like an epidemic. Methinks much of it is over-diagnosis. I can't begin to think of the potential long-term effects of pumping drugs into these young kids at ages such as 6-8. Maybe what's needed is a bit more of the "Sit down, shut up, and face the blackboard." From my limited reading theres a suspected link between ADHD and kids watching TV at a young age, due to the short bursty nature of ads and shows, kids don't learn to concentrate. Nobody thinks that the growing rate of asthma and food allergies is a whole lot of codswallop, so I don't think we should say the same about ADHD just because its a mental one. And yeah the whole outrage over Hansons comments is way over the top. I always thought autistic kids automatically went to their own special schools anyway. Edited June 23, 2017 by hedaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Simplistic statements for special needs children in education is unnecessary. There is no simple answer/solutions. As a society the more we are aware and the more discoveries that are made not only do we reap the rewards but also the problems. When I was at primary school ADHD kids were just considered dickheads and treated as such. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 hours ago, hedaik said: From my limited reading theres a suspected link between ADHD and kids watching TV at a young age, due to the short bursty nature of ads and shows, kids don't learn to concentrate. Nobody thinks that the growing rate of asthma and food allergies is a whole lot of codswallop, so I don't think we should say the same about ADHD just because its a mental one. And yeah the whole outrage over Hansons comments is way over the top. I always thought autistic kids automatically went to their own special schools anyway. These days the kids with serious problems seem to go to a normal school. They run amuck and Get 95% of the teachers attention and disrupt the class, but this is apparently a good thing and cannot be challenged or questioned. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Shahanga said: These days the kids with serious problems seem to go to a normal school. They run amuck and Get 95% of the teachers attention and disrupt the class, but this is apparently a good thing and cannot be challenged or questioned. This. Teachers don't have the balls or authority to tell the kid otherwise. Just yep yeah sure anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeCee Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) On 23/06/2017 at 9:58 PM, Shahanga said: These days the kids with serious problems seem to go to a normal school. They run amuck and Get 95% of the teachers attention and disrupt the class, but this is apparently a good thing and cannot be challenged or questioned. Lol. I can only comment on the autism side of things, but if you think that the families and professionals involved with a kid who falls on the spectrum are not fully behind improving the current methods of implementing said kids into schools, you should probably go get assessed yourself. FWIW there is a pretty big set of existing requirements that a kid has to pass before being admitted (including a 'slowness' test rofl), and the really problematic ones that somehow get through are probably only there because the parents are stupidly unable to accept that their kid is not normal. I agree that this isn't beneficial to anyone involved, least of all the kid themselves. It still remains a great source of frustration for teachers, aides, professionals and the like. The super bad ones do get sent to a special requirements school, and usually spend their life in care centers. However, professionals also remain notoriously bad at over-diagnosing the severity of disorders, and its only after pushing to get into the schooling system (with the required amount of prior preparation and on-going support) that it's discovered the child isn't actually a total write off, and goes on to become a weird, yet functioning member of society. If this opportunity wasn't provided, they'd likely be useless for the rest of their lives, being a much larger overall drain on social support measures. Lets face it, the disabled kids at schools are defs not the biggest distractions in the classroom. If they are, the schools you're talking about must be fucking boring. When you weigh up between having 12 years of slight added distraction against a lifetime of taxpayer funded support, I know what I'm picking (and this is before even considering the rights and personal well-being of the diagnosed kid themselves and their family). On 23/06/2017 at 9:57 AM, jw1739 said: What should be debated is why there seem to be so many children these days deemed to either be "on the autism spectrum" or supposedly having ADHD. It seems like an epidemic. Methinks much of it is over-diagnosis. I can't begin to think of the potential long-term effects of pumping drugs into these young kids at ages such as 6-8. Maybe what's needed is a bit more of the "Sit down, shut up, and face the blackboard." As awareness increases, obviously the number diagnosed also increases. Would love to see how many blokes your age have gone their whole lives living with autism without realising. Kinda shows that it doesn't always have to be a major personal issue actually, as they've managed without ever knowing. Drugs will only be supplied to autistic kids to address issues relating to severe behavioural problems (ie, the not at school types), and is incredibly rare and largely against professional recommendation. I agree on more of the tough love treatment, which actually forms a large part of the early development education program (ABA) that diagnosed kids go through. Many ABA therapists get frustrated by the unwillingness of the parents and school teachers to crack down on the child, who are fearing a blow out (this can also generally extend to normal functioning brats too). Edited June 24, 2017 by AyeCee 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 2017-6-23 at 9:57 AM, jw1739 said: What should be debated is why there seem to be so many children these days deemed to either be "on the autism spectrum" or supposedly having ADHD. It seems like an epidemic. Methinks much of it is over-diagnosis. I can't begin to think of the potential long-term effects of pumping drugs into these young kids at ages such as 6-8. Maybe what's needed is a bit more of the "Sit down, shut up, and face the blackboard." Agree I remember back in the late 90s earlier 2000s there seemed to be a mass osteitis pubis "epidemic" - something you don't really hear of these days yet every other sports person seemed to get it. I've always thought since that it's very easy for things to be over blown / see an over diagnosis given ignorance of the public. Undoubtedly there actually are more case since we do know what to look for, it unfortunately seems easy to go for the label since its the simple and possibly lazy option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 6 hours ago, mattyh001 said: Agree I remember back in the late 90s earlier 2000s there seemed to be a mass osteitis pubis "epidemic" - something you don't really hear of these days yet every other sports person seemed to get it. I've always thought since that it's very easy for things to be over blown / see an over diagnosis given ignorance of the public. Undoubtedly there actually are more case since we do know what to look for, it unfortunately seems easy to go for the label since its the simple and possibly lazy option I remember Freo got Luke McPharlin to even up the original Trent Croad deal because Hawthorn thought he would never make it as an AFL player purely cos he had OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, AyeCee said: the really problematic ones that somehow get through are probably only there because the parents are stupidly unable to accept that their kid is not normal. I agree that this isn't beneficial to anyone involved, least of all the kid themselves. It still remains a great source of frustration for teachers, aides, professionals and the like. Yep, that's what I'm talking about. There are perhaps more stupid (or perhaps more correctly self centred) parents then you realise. Not prepared to accept that their child is high needs and adjustments to work, life and of course schooling are required. im not advocating "institutionalising" these kids by the way, but they shouldn't be in a normal class, so another solution has to be found. In my experience "pretending a problem doesn't exist" rarely leads to it going away. update: actually the more I think about the examples I know it basically comes down to the parents refusing to adjust their lifestyle etc to meet their child's needs. That's why the kid is s disaster in school. If they had them home before and after school and on the occasional "crazy" day, they would go Ok, but they don't, so they don't. Pretty sad actually Edited June 25, 2017 by Shahanga Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 TTDIM: 3 more glorious years of Joe Daniher at Tullamarine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 20 hours ago, GreenSeater said: TTDIM: 3 more glorious years of Joe Daniher at Tullamarine He will be a one club man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 27/06/2017 at 6:57 PM, thisphantomfortress said: He will be a one club man Paul Salmon and Roger Merrett should have been one club men as well FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, cadete said: Paul Salmon and Roger Merrett should have been one club men as well FWIW. Roger Merrett. A great of the Brisbane Lions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 TTDIM: Joe Budden breaking the internet with his trolling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 ttdim: bought a 1:1 replica of a seamaster by omega. walked into rolex collins the other day all swagged out wearing my ultraboosts, tall tee, open nike jacket and black cuffed jeans. blokes there looked at me like i don't belong until their eye caught my omega. even got a little smirky headnod. lmao life is too easy 8K+ watch for 450 lmao i fuckin love china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Begbie Posted July 3, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 6 hours ago, strider said: ttdim: bought a 1:1 replica of a seamaster by omega. walked into rolex collins the other day all swagged out wearing my ultraboosts, tall tee, open nike jacket and black cuffed jeans. blokes there looked at me like i don't belong until their eye caught my omega. even got a little smirky headnod. lmao life is too easy 8K+ watch for 450 lmao i fuckin love china 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Begbie said: Walla cuz Do u know who I think I am? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Ttdim: mixing no sleep, red bull, 5htp and noopept. Dream state IRL, fukin amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 10 hours ago, strider said: Ttdim: mixing no sleep, red bull, 5htp and noopept. Dream state IRL, fukin amazing Do u make motivation videos too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 57 minutes ago, cadete said: Do u make motivation videos too? Woah relax bro Greg Plitt is dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 12 hours ago, strider said: Woah relax bro Greg Plitt is dead Looks like it's logically up to you to carry the flame then Strides. Maybe you can hit up Tes for a few of his MHFC day Singlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 53 minutes ago, cadete said: Looks like it's logically up to you to carry the flame then Strides. Maybe you can hit up Tes for a few of his MHFC day Singlets. Dude wtf ur a mod and ur wishing death on me? Wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 32 minutes ago, strider said: Dude wtf ur a mod and ur wishing death on me? Wtf? No, I am just wishing you could strap on a GoPro and provide the rest of with some Inspiration via Youtube... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) And there goes Strides for a couple of days... starting to get the hang of this Mod Shit. NOTE: His offending post has been hidden FWIW. Edited July 6, 2017 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 TTDIM: Woolworths fighting the good fight http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/woolworths-refusing-to-stock-coca-cola-no-sugar/ar-BBDOG0a?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=DELLDHP CC: @thisphantomfortress @Embee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, GreenSeater said: TTDIM: Woolworths fighting the good fight http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/woolworths-refusing-to-stock-coca-cola-no-sugar/ar-BBDOG0a?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=DELLDHP CC: @thisphantomfortress @Embee I literally drink 3L of Coke Zero/Pepsi Max a day (The Wife hates it) and I missed the release of Coke No Sugar whilst I was overseas and TBH I reckon its far better than the other two. It def tastes a lot more like Normal Coke as well than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 32 minutes ago, cadete said: I literally drink 3L of Coke Zero/Pepsi Max a day (The Wife hates it) and I missed the release of Coke No Sugar whilst I was overseas and TBH I reckon its far better than the other two. It def tastes a lot more like Normal Coke as well than the others. Problem is Coke Zero tastes better than normal Coke. Coke No Sugar just tastes will watered down Coke Zero with more sweetener added. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, Tesla said: Problem is Coke Zero tastes better than normal Coke. Coke No Sugar just tastes will watered down Coke Zero with more sweetener added. I am sorry but personally I disagree... Coke is the greatest tasting drink on earth - I have it very rarely but notice how much nicer it is than the Sugarfree stuff every time I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Also FWIW TTDIM: Rangers losing to the Euro Equivalent of Heidelberg at The Olympic Village.... ah the Magic of The Cup. @strider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 42 minutes ago, cadete said: I am sorry but personally I disagree... Coke is the greatest tasting drink on earth - I have it very rarely but notice how much nicer it is than the Sugarfree stuff every time I do. I used to prefer it but over time I guess I got used to the Coke Zero taste and now I just dont like normal Coke anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 23 minutes ago, Tesla said: I used to prefer it but over time I guess I got used to the Coke Zero taste and now I just dont like normal Coke anymore. I drank a heavy intake of Coke for like ten years before I moved to the Zero/Max (Zero did not exist) so I could always remember its superiority despite never choosing to drink it for years... mind you I have it with Rum these days. Anyway at least we are not just stuck with only Coke Light (Diet Coke) as an option like in a lot of South America and even parts of Europe. Also TTIM: How the Irish and English sell Coke Bottles kept in Fridges that are barely colder than room temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I personally don't taste too much difference between the bottled Coke and Coke Zero, the biggest differences are in the Syrup based ones IMO. I never get Zero from McDonald's or the movies, tastes horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Embee said: I personally don't taste too much difference between the bottled Coke and Coke Zero, the biggest differences are in the Syrup based ones IMO. I never get Zero from McDonald's or the movies, tastes horrible. Yeah syrup Coke Zero is fucked, and then half the time they give you real coke because they're not retarded (the mentally handicapped people that work at these places are generally the only competent ones). I'm here fucking ingesting 1,000 calories of shit, I dont need to drink another 200 calories as well, gotta save those calories where you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 23 minutes ago, Embee said: I personally don't taste too much difference between the bottled Coke and Coke Zero, the biggest differences are in the Syrup based ones IMO. I never get Zero from McDonald's or the movies, tastes horrible. That is the one of the good things about KFC being with Pepsi... At least you know u get a bottle/can of MAX not a Crap Cup of Zero Syrup and too much ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, cadete said: That is the one of the good things about KFC being with Pepsi... At least you know u get a bottle/can of MAX not a Crap Cup of Zero Syrup and too much ice. Until you visit one of the food court KFCs that have syrup machines. Syrup Pepsi, the fast food equivalent in cheapness of homemade bread. Edited July 6, 2017 by Tesla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 1) Coke 2) Pepsi Max 3) Coke Zero 4) Pepsi This is the correct order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, GreenSeater said: 1) Coke 2) Pepsi Max 3) Coke Zero 4) Pepsi This is the correct order No love for the dew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: No love for the dew? The dew is forever number one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: The dew is forever number one I like the drink itself, but most of the people that drink it are all try hard American wannabes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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