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so when are we going to start playing like a team that actually looks likely to do something at the next World Cup, if we even qualify for it? Seriously everyone's timing is terrible, we either hold on to the ball for an eternity (Kruse and Mooy) and the opportunity's lost or we wastefully turn it over due to lack of composure (Kruse, Jedinak and Leckie)

Rogic the only one out there at the moment who looks like he knows what he's doing.

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Kruse is trash. How a bloke with no crossing ability made it to the European top flights as a winger astounds me. Mooy looks knackered. McClaren looks lost. Rogic looks like he's always on the brink of doing something interesting but never actually does. Our defence is very poor. Just no communication out there at all. Not good to watch

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Both our fullbacks are shithouse. Degenek is not up to it . Who the fuck is he anyway? 

Brad Smith gets forward okay but final ball is often poor. Defensively he is suspect though. A bit of a dumb workhorse.

Speaking of which, Matthew Leckie is possibly the dumbest international footballer in the world. Shithouse first touch, just a fucking donkey. If he wasn;t such an athlete he would be a brickie's labourer now. 

Rogic is the laziest prick ever and so predictable. Always goes to his left and even the Thais can read it. Mooy was poor tonight also. You can't play 4-3-3 when two of the midfield (Mooy and Rogic) do no defensive work and the other one (Jedinak) just sits in the hole and is now so slow the opposition players pretty much just run past him.   

How McLaren got a run at Number 9 is a joke. Never got the ball to feet once so not a Number 9's arsehole. That is Ange's call both in selection and style of play.

Kruse's crossing and final ball were very very poor but half of the problem was McLaren hiding between defenders giving him no target to aim at. 

Very lucky to get the second penalty, oh so soft,  and the keeper should also probably have saved it.

Time to give someone like Bratten a go. Rogic has played two very poor games in a row now, needs to sit on his arse for a while.

A great opportunity missed to go top of the group and make life a bit easier.

Need to find some fullbacks from somewhere, the other teams now know we are shit there and are targetting us out wide. Same old story out wide in the past 3 games now. Need to do something about it. 

Just very disappointing.      

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Switched it off after they drew level in the first half, I knew they will struggle based on what I saw. Glad I did what I did, what a wasteful opportunity. Jedinak should have been dropped ages ago. Was disappointed that Brattan didn't even start.

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Mooy was shit.

Kruse was so turd it was unbelievable.

Jedinak's passing per usual - shit. 

Leckie is just retarded but better than Kruse comparing both wingers.

McLaren not upto international standard yet but he did have 2 defenders up his ass. 

Rogic lazy.

Watching the Socceroos is like watching Melbourne City. Both are set up to hold the ball and attack, opposing teams sit off and park the bus and then counter super quickly, issue for Roos/City is that the guys can't get back quickly enough and we are often mismatched on defensive numbers. 

 

Seems club form isn't translating to the NT at the moment. 

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The Thais were really up for it. They played a pretty intense games (for the conditions).

Classic game of trying to break down a stacked defence. You need to move the ball quickly and move off the ball as quick. We did neither. You also need to be able to get width and attack from wide areas we we didn't. 

We were actually lucky to get a point that second pen was pretty soft and most refs wouldn't have paid it.

Ange has alot of work to do. 

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3 minutes ago, Jovan said:

The Thais were really up for it. They played a pretty intense games (for the conditions).

Classic game of trying to break down a stacked defence. You need to move the ball quickly and move off the ball as quick. We did neither. You also need to be able to get width and attack from wide areas we we didn't. 

We were actually lucky to get a point that second pen was pretty soft and most refs wouldn't have paid it.

Ange has alot of work to do. 

as @pattyd89 said, it reminds me of our team

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41 minutes ago, Jovan said:

The Thais were really up for it. They played a pretty intense games (for the conditions).

Classic game of trying to break down a stacked defence. You need to move the ball quickly and move off the ball as quick. We did neither. You also need to be able to get width and attack from wide areas we we didn't. 

We were actually lucky to get a point that second pen was pretty soft and most refs wouldn't have paid it.

Ange has alot of work to do. 

Im glad they paid that pen. Sure it was soft but defenders get away with shit all the time, yet the second an attacker does it they get the foul. I'd more than happy for them to let it go if the held the defenders to the same standard as the attackers though.

In the five minutes leading into that we had two corners where the exact same thing happened and both free kicks were awarded against Jedinak. Funny game football.

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This is what we always wanted isn't it? Competitive qualifying games.

The minnows in Asia can't steal results like the ones in Europe yet, but we dont know how to break down defences that are hell bent on not letting us score either. We need to learn, and I dare say we will and we will get better.

But it's crucial we qualify for the WC, it would set us back too much if we dont. We are basically able to attract anyone with  dual eligibility to play for us now because we offer a great proposition. We offer a good chance to win an Asian Cup every few years, and go to every World Cup, while also offering international opportunities to players  who aren't guarenteed that if they chose a bigger nation. Thats why they all choose Australia right now, it makes too much sense for the players unless they are very likely to be a world class player and have dual eligibility for a much better footballing nation.

If we dont qualify all of a sudden we dont look that good compared to a mid-tear European nation. What works against those countries is how hard it is just to qualify for Euros and WC.

Or against a top nation, caps and almost-guarenteed WC vs waiting around for a chance that might not come, we win.

We need to keep up the almost-guarenteed prospect of playing in a WC, or our proposition weakens and we lose players.

You're always going to get the players who are either eligable for a significantly worse nation and have a chance with us, and the players who think they have no chance at a bigger nation, and we'll always lose the players with a good chance at a much better nation. But the players who are eligable for a similar-level nation or with weak chances at a bigger nation, them choosing us depends on us consistently qualifying for WCs.

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You know what the problem is? The fact that Ange wants to play a certain way with a team where only 5 players are capable of it.

To play that high possession, pressing, high passing game you actually need the players with a very high skill level and a team with instinctive movement.

Second mistake was using 3 up front with no target-type forward and 2 wingers that a just not up to it.

Third mistake was thinking that in those oppressive conditions that a team can play that high workrate tactics for 90 minutes.

The game was totally mismanaged but all we will hear from the Fox fanboys and Ange himself that is that Ange wants to play a certain way and players are good enough and all the other positive affirmation crap. This feel good approach may work with kids but won't cut it on the international stage.

Our players aren't good enough to play the way he wants because they think they are good enough. We need a manager that can objectively and accurately manage our team and each game. If you look at Hiddink's management of Australia and the tweeking he made for every game you will get an idea of what I mean.

With the current game plan and with the current squad we will get smashed.

Solution: get a better thinking and more dynamic manager with a smaller ego.

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