Shahanga Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Its very sad. He sounded like a decent human being too. As a player he certainly transformed wing play - small fast guys were popular before he came along! I'll never forget him destroying the Poms in the world cup - unfortunately for the kiwis though, the south africans had seen big guys before and they shut him out in the final. Not to detract from the great Jonah, but in Australia at least, Dally Messenger would have been the first Rugby Superstar, (some 90 odd years earlier). He was the star whose signature was big enough to underwrite the birth of a new game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Watching the Brumbies v Tahs on one screen and Brisbane v WSW on the other. After going to a couple of club games in England last year we really have the best domestic rugby in the world in super rugby. Shame most Aussies don't care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Thoughts on the game tonight? I think we have what it takes to beat them, but a bit worried after the other week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 At the game. Great first half TBH. AAMI packed to the rafters and heaving. Really good so far. Only downer is the joke of a pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Take the 3 (idiots, they didn't) And now the opportunity is lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Really disappointed I didn't know this game was on, would love to have gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Really shit effort. Only have ourselves to blame, although England's defence was like a brick wall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, GreenSeater said: Really shit effort. Only have ourselves to blame, although England's defence was like a brick wall Honestly I remember going to see England v the all blacks in Wellington in 2003, this English side look just as good. Amazing the difference a good coach can make Edited June 19, 2016 by thisphantomfortress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 1 hour ago, thisphantomfortress said: Honestly I remember going to see England v the all blacks in Wellington in 2003, this English side look just as good. Amazing the difference a good coach can make Agreed, they look a completely different side to the rabble that we played at the World Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 14 hours ago, GreenSeater said: Really shit effort. Only have ourselves to blame, although England's defence was like a brick wall if we'd stopped trying to score try's at all costs and taken free kicks and field goals we would have won easily. Poor tactics lost us the game. Having said that was shit to watch. Confirmed why I don't bother watching Rugby anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Hell of a game to cap off a massive series for England. Where do the wallabies go from here? Next two games are against NZ they could be realistically on a 6 game losing streak by the end of August Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 This thread needs some love, hell of a game tonight. Lions with one of the all time great test trys but all blacks just too good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 19 hours ago, thisphantomfortress said: This thread needs some love, hell of a game tonight. Lions with one of the all time great test trys but all blacks just too good What's going on with the whole cutting teams thing mate? I noticed there was a crap crowd at the Wallabies game and they blamed it on that, can you give me a summary of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, Hellenic Hero said: What's going on with the whole cutting teams thing mate? I noticed there was a crap crowd at the Wallabies game and they blamed it on that, can you give me a summary of it? Think of how bad the ffa are and double it and that's the ARU. Super rugby expanded to the point it was unsustainable and they're cutting it back and an aussie team has to go. The whole process has been handled terribly. Google for actual details cause I cbf explaining it all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, thisphantomfortress said: Think of how bad the ffa are and double it and that's the ARU. Super rugby expanded to the point it was unsustainable and they're cutting it back and an aussie team has to go. The whole process has been handled terribly. Google for actual details cause I cbf explaining it all Ok that makes sense, will it be the Rebels that are cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Hellenic Hero said: Ok that makes sense, will it be the Rebels that are cut? It's down to the rebels and the force. Originally it was the force who were thought to be cut but now it's more likely to be the Rebels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: It's down to the rebels and the force. Originally it was the force who were thought to be cut but now it's more likely to be the Rebels. Got the inside Goss on this one, will be force. Greenline it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 2 hours ago, thisphantomfortress said: Think of how bad the ffa are and double it and that's the ARU. Super rugby expanded to the point it was unsustainable and they're cutting it back and an aussie team has to go. The whole process has been handled terribly. Google for actual details cause I cbf explaining it all The irony being people want the FFA to expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, kingofhearts said: It's down to the rebels and the force. Originally it was the force who were thought to be cut but now it's more likely to be the Rebels. What are Rebels crowds like? Compared to Force that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) On 25/06/2017 at 5:20 PM, thisphantomfortress said: Got the inside Goss on this one, will be force. Greenline it I always thought that Perth, with East Pretoria as a suburb, would be safe from being cut, I thought that it would be the Rebels to make way Edited June 27, 2017 by japiedog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, japiedog said: I always thought that Perth, with East Pretoria as a suburb, would be safe from being cut, I thought that it would be the Rebels to make way Rebels are privately owned and have a qc who has offered to take the aru on pro bono. Would cost far more in legal costs to the aru to have a crack at the rebels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 2017-6-25 at 6:28 PM, Hellenic Hero said: What are Rebels crowds like? Compared to Force that is Wouldn't know tbh, but as shit as the rebels do, they still pull alright crowds. Like i think the rebels average 8-12k depending on who they are playing I heard they were winding down, and the fact that their not re-signing their coach is a sign to it. He also quite crap atm too so it could be that lol, @thisphantomfortress would know more about this then myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Wouldn't know tbh, but as shit as the rebels do, they still pull alright crowds. Like i think the rebels average 8-12k depending on who they are playing I heard they were winding down, and the fact that their not re-signing their coach is a sign to it. He also quite crap atm too so it could be that lol, @thisphantomfortress would know more about this then myself. TM was always gunna be gone by seasons end, surprised he made it to this season tbh there was a player revolt last year. They're signing players and the owners have been unequivocal in their stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) On 27/06/2017 at 2:08 PM, japiedog said: I always thought that Perth, with East Pretoria as a suburb, would be safe from being cut, I thought that it would be the Rebels to make way Yeah, but knowing a lot of these people from when I lived there they aren't they type to attend sport regular... (Produce a lot of hot daughters though.) There are also a lot of Kiwis in Perth, but of course being Kiwis they have stuck with the local teams from where they are from in NZ. (Expecting otherwise is like expecting a Vic to change AFL teams cos he lives in Perth - Not happening.) Edited July 8, 2017 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Drawn series is a very interesting result. Probably fair on balance and the abs look vulnerable, shame Australian and South African rugby are a shit show at the moment and they don't play England until next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Australia are going get torn a new one, this next Rugby Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, japiedog said: Australia are going get torn a new one, this next Rugby Championship They always pull off a win against the Saffers or Argies, but bledisloe they haven't a snow balls chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: They always pull off a win against the Saffers or Argies, but bledisloe they haven't a snow balls chance they won't beat the Jaapies in SA, plus the Argies will push hard for a win at home the AB's will blow them of the paddock, if Oz gets within 20 points, they will consider that a good effort, but i reckon they'll be lucky to keep it at 30 points in reality they arsed their way through the Italy match, the could have ( and probably should have ) lost that one woeful against Scotland, and to think that Scotland had their 5 best players unavailable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Where's my Green Line ?? 20 points exactly, but the AB's took the foot oft he pedal, they should have won by 30 or more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 hours ago, japiedog said: Where's my Green Line ?? 20 points exactly, but the AB's took the foot oft he pedal, they should have won by 30 or more Was a bizare test. All Blacks looked like they couldn't be assed after half time. Whoever said test rugby lacks trys needs to watch both games from last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 From someone who knows bugger all about rugby union, would we have been better to develop and add to existing Australian club rugby rather than go for the "super rugby" concept? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 59 minutes ago, jw1739 said: From someone who knows bugger all about rugby union, would we have been better to develop and add to existing Australian club rugby rather than go for the "super rugby" concept? Club rugby was always well to the background in Oz. Where the action was at was what Rugby calls "Provincial Level". Here that meant state level. Queensland were always playing someone, be it a visiting touring side, from the other side of the world, or the flamboyant Pacific Nations and of course the old enemy, clad in their satanic sky blue. Plenty of tours too to, including of course NZ, where we'd have to play gun teams like Canterbury. Eventually some bright spark said let's make this a tournament and thus the South Pacific Cup was born, with (I think) our only 2 teams worth a tinkers cuss, 3 NZ and Fiji. Eventually that became super rugby. The advantage over club rugby is that there are less teams to spread the talent, however given we really only have 2 states to source players (& at least in Queensland the game is even then not very widely played, only in a few select schools, or at least was), trying to have 5 quality provincial teams was a bit of a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 12 hours ago, Shahanga said: Club rugby was always well to the background in Oz. Where the action was at was what Rugby calls "Provincial Level". Here that meant state level. Queensland were always playing someone, be it a visiting touring side, from the other side of the world, or the flamboyant Pacific Nations and of course the old enemy, clad in their satanic sky blue. Plenty of tours too to, including of course NZ, where we'd have to play gun teams like Canterbury. Eventually some bright spark said let's make this a tournament and thus the South Pacific Cup was born, with (I think) our only 2 teams worth a tinkers cuss, 3 NZ and Fiji. Eventually that became super rugby. The advantage over club rugby is that there are less teams to spread the talent, however given we really only have 2 states to source players (& at least in Queensland the game is even then not very widely played, only in a few select schools, or at least was), trying to have 5 quality provincial teams was a bit of a joke. So true... also PPL in NSW often literally care more about their School Rugby than Super Rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 http://www.kimberleyecho.com.au/?politics%2Fwa-govt-may-sue-aru-over-force-axing-ng-s-1762839 "If the ARU goes bankrupt it will be their own fault" interesting. if you remove politics, keeping the Melbourne team makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Shahanga said: http://www.kimberleyecho.com.au/?politics%2Fwa-govt-may-sue-aru-over-force-axing-ng-s-1762839 "If the ARU goes bankrupt it will be their own fault" interesting. if you remove politics, keeping the Melbourne team makes no sense. Agree, Rebels finish rock bottom, Force finish second ( Australian pool) Rebels Stay, Force kicked out. Rebels are in one of the toughest sporting markets in the world, up against the AFL in all its glory, plus NRL and A League I was a foundation member and stayed for 5 seasons , but enough was enough the same brand of mistake laden rugby, no improvement in the team performance Backroom deals done to keep them in the Super competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, japiedog said: Agree, Rebels finish rock bottom, Force finish second ( Australian pool) Rebels Stay, Force kicked out. Rebels are in one of the toughest sporting markets in the world, up against the AFL in all its glory, plus NRL and A League I was a foundation member and stayed for 5 seasons , but enough was enough the same brand of mistake laden rugby, no improvement in the team performance Backroom deals done to keep them in the Super competition WA are huffing and puffing but it would cost a hell of a lot more to scrap the Rebels. Plus lower travel costs etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, thisphantomfortress said: WA are huffing and puffing but it would cost a hell of a lot more to scrap the Rebels. Plus lower travel costs etc etc. WA huff and puff about everything... They have word they use often called: "Eastern Staters" and they will almost always be actually are surprised when you tell them nobody knows of this word outside of WA. For Example: Every Free Kick paid at Subi against the WCE is because of the Eastern Staters running the AFL... even when WCE usually sit in the Top Five of Free Kick Ladder (The currently sit comfortably on top ATM). Edited August 22, 2017 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 ahh So the Wallabies almost arsed their way to a win the ALL BLACKS, made more mistakes in the first 10 minutes than they normally make in a Test series, plus 2 disallowed tries while I'm happy that the Wallabies almost did it, plus a cracking match to watch, it masks the fact that the Wallabies are still off the pace compared to the AB's Let"s see what transpires in the matches against the Jaapies and the Argies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 In a shock to nobody the force just lost their challenge in the supreme court Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 spent force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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