n i k o Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Thrillhouse said: it's amazing how such dud players can start up their own academy (franjic,trifiro,heffernan,caravella) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 15 hours ago, Hellenic Hero said: That's just because he's your mate He's a fucking jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: He's a fucking jet. Really? A couple of my mates who go to a few NPL games a year both said he was pretty average/disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nah brah Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 17 hours ago, haz said: Would like us to go for Ibini on loan/permanent. Would be ahead of all our wingers except Brandan ibini isnt as good as he was with ccm. i'd rather kamau, fitz and brandan. ibini has loads of potential but is yet to step up and fulfil it. 6 hours ago, Tony999 said: He also has his own football clinic on Saturday's that runs for about 2-3hrs. Quite popular and getting up to 50 kids. i was thinking about the captain issue and i reckon franjic deserves a look in. ex socceroo - still on the fringes and has world cup experience. won championships with brisbane played in europe - although screwed over by his russian club coaches a junior team seems pretty down to earth and like a decent guy. coaches juniors in his spare time. works his arse of in most games and takes on any player. he is the kind of captain that can set a new standard of behaviour and maybe step away from some of the egoic on field shit we have had to suffer this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, nah brah said: ibini isnt as good as he was with ccm. i'd rather kamau, fitz and brandan. ibini has loads of potential but is yet to step up and fulfil it. i was thinking about the captain issue and i reckon franjic deserves a look in. ex socceroo - still on the fringes and has world cup experience. won championships with brisbane played in europe - although screwed over by his russian club coaches a junior team seems pretty down to earth and like a decent guy. coaches juniors in his spare time. works his arse of in most games and takes on any player. he is the kind of captain that can set a new standard of behaviour and maybe step away from some of the egoic on field shit we have had to suffer this season. Have to disagree there. A captain needs to be a certain starting player, and I don't think Franjic is that any more. Edited April 30, 2017 by jw1739 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Hellenic Hero said: Really? A couple of my mates who go to a few NPL games a year both said he was pretty average/disappointing. That's just because they're your mates 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 hours ago, nah brah said: ibini isnt as good as he was with ccm. i'd rather kamau, fitz and brandan. ibini has loads of potential but is yet to step up and fulfil it. i was thinking about the captain issue and i reckon franjic deserves a look in. ex socceroo - still on the fringes and has world cup experience. won championships with brisbane played in europe - although screwed over by his russian club coaches a junior team seems pretty down to earth and like a decent guy. coaches juniors in his spare time. works his arse of in most games and takes on any player. he is the kind of captain that can set a new standard of behaviour and maybe step away from some of the egoic on field shit we have had to suffer this season. We should get him out of the team not put him as captain.. have a look a Grant last night did not stop running if that was franjic he will gone within 15min because he won't be able to run anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 People hugely exaggerate the importance of who is captain IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Melbourne City FC can confirm it has today released four players following the conclusion of the Club’s Hyundai A-League 2016/17 campaign. Josh Rose, Steve Kuzmanovski and Corey Gameiro will not remain with Melbourne City FC for the 2017/18 A-League season, following the conclusion of their contracts. In addition, Nicolas Colazo has completed his loan spell at Melbourne City and will return to Argentine Primera Division side Boca Juniors. The Club would like to thank all outgoing players for their contribution during their time at Melbourne City FC and wishes them all the best for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tomi said: Melbourne City FC can confirm it has today released four players following the conclusion of the Club’s Hyundai A-League 2016/17 campaign. Josh Rose, Steve Kuzmanovski and Corey Gameiro will not remain with Melbourne City FC for the 2017/18 A-League season, following the conclusion of their contracts. In addition, Nicolas Colazo has completed his loan spell at Melbourne City and will return to Argentine Primera Division side Boca Juniors. The Club would like to thank all outgoing players for their contribution during their time at Melbourne City FC and wishes them all the best for the future. Good call on all tbh, would have considered Rose for one more year but I reckon its curtains for his career. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Good call on all tbh, would have considered Rose for one more year but I reckon its curtains for his career. Might have gambled with either Kuzi or Gameiro but definitely not both. Tough call but ultimately probably a wise on. Josh Rose could maybe got another season but hopefully that means we will see 2 new lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Good call on all tbh, would have considered Rose for one more year but I reckon its curtains for his career. Agree. No official word on Sorensen, Brattan, Caceres yet. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just now, jw1739 said: Agree. No official word on Sorensen, Brattan, Caceres yet. Interesting. My thoughts will be Sorensen will make his retirement announcement. From what I have heard the other two are in the dark about their status as we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Good decisions all-around. Rose may have been a bit stiff as he finished the season well, but he's 35 years old. Can't see him running out another season in the A League. Not fussed about Colazo or Kuzmanovski, but pretty shattered for Gameiro. Poor bloke has been so unlucky. Hope he gets another chance somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, GreenSeater said: Good decisions all-around. Rose may have been a bit stiff as he finished the season well, but he's 35 years old. Can't see him running out another season in the A League. Not fussed about Colazo or Kuzmanovski, but pretty shattered for Gameiro. Poor bloke has been so unlucky. Hope he gets another chance somewhere else. Yep Gameiro just lucked out. If he does get another contract in the A League knowing our luck he will destroy it. And to he honest I really hope he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jovan said: Yep Gameiro just lucked out. If he does get another contract in the A League knowing our luck he will destroy it. And to he honest I really hope he does. The way I see it, even if he is able to get himself fit and injury free, he hasn't played in the better part of two years. I think he needs to spend some time in the NPL and work his way back into the A League if I'm honest. Can't see him being up to standard after that big a break 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Would people want us to go after Chris Harold? Rate him really highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, GreenSeater said: The way I see it, even if he is able to get himself fit and injury free, he hasn't played in the better part of two years. I think he needs to spend some time in the NPL and work his way back into the A League if I'm honest. Can't see him being up to standard after that big a break He's 24, and if you look at his record he's played only a few matches at senior level. Cruel for him, but I can't see him getting back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Hellenic Hero said: Would people want us to go after Chris Harold? Rate him really highly. Chris Harold is finishing a law degree I think, I'm not sure he will even continue with his professional football career 2 hours ago, GreenSeater said: Good decisions all-around. Rose may have been a bit stiff as he finished the season well, but he's 35 years old. Can't see him running out another season in the A League. Not fussed about Colazo or Kuzmanovski, but pretty shattered for Gameiro. Poor bloke has been so unlucky. Hope he gets another chance somewhere else. I'm not sure whether they are good or bad decisions until we know who their replacements will be, they all need to be replaced with better players in the context of an overall better balanced squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Hellenic Hero said: Would people want us to go after Chris Harold? Rate him really highly. As @belaguttman says Chris Harold is not playing next year ( and who knows for the future) to concentrate on finishing his studies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, japiedog said: As @belaguttman says Chris Harold is not playing next year ( and who knows for the future) to concentrate on finishing his studies Sorry- didn't know that. What about Jamal Reiners? I saw a couple of people linking him to us on Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just now, Hellenic Hero said: Sorry- didn't know that. What about Jamal Reiners? I saw a couple of people linking him to us on Twitter No problem , I only discovered that watching the other night, or watching the replay of our final against Perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Now we just need to release Kamau and Fornaroli and we can be title contenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nah brah Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, GreenSeater said: The way I see it, even if he is able to get himself fit and injury free, he hasn't played in the better part of two years. I think he needs to spend some time in the NPL and work his way back into the A League if I'm honest. Can't see him being up to standard after that big a break if only we had a second division 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sucks for Gameiro and kuzi, been fucked over by poor management Wouldn't complain if they were to comeback and score hattrick against us one day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just now, Chris p said: Sucks for Gameiro and kuzi, been fucked over by poor management Wouldn't complain if they were to comeback and score hattrick against us one day I don't think you can say that at all. Completely unfair and unjustified comment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chris p said: Sucks for Gameiro and kuzi, been fucked over by poor management Wouldn't complain if they were to comeback and score hattrick against us one day Bahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Chris p said: Sucks for Gameiro and kuzi, been fucked over by poor management Wouldn't complain if they were to comeback and score hattrick against us one day Completely inaccurate. They've been injured and to have 3 players on long-term injuries including Brandan is mismanagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jovan said: Completely inaccurate. They've been injured and to have 3 players on long-term injuries including Brandan is mismanagement. You were fine with Jvs and Valkanis ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Chris p said: You were fine with Jvs and Valkanis ? No. But how does that relate to not renewing to players after long-term injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chris p said: You were fine with Jvs and Valkanis ? Strawman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) i cant say i'm overly surprised by the four exits; one under performing marquee / inconsistent visa player, a 35 year old who showed at different times through out the season his best days are past him (which is very sad given how underrated Josh Rose was when playing at CCM - i feel the improvement he showed after a very poor start to the season highlighted that Rose had talent; he just couldnt perform week in week out), and two victims of ACL injuries who still have a long road of recovery to return (should they actually make it back to the A League). out of curiosity, how does the maximum squad quota work with contracted players from the youth team? I know that we have to have at least three contracted players aged 20 or under, and that the contracts for the scholarship / youth contracts count towards the salary cap, but it all seems murky since IIRC a number of the youth players can be excluded from the squad number cap of 23 ages to go before the start of next season ... by God this feels like its gonna be a long off season Edited May 1, 2017 by mattyh001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sure hope we got MacLaren. His other half would be a bonus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Chris p said: Sucks for Gameiro and kuzi, been fucked over by poor management Wouldn't complain if they were to comeback and score hattrick against us one day C'mon Kuzi received his injury playing for the Young Socceroos, it ha nothing to do with us. Lucky for the 3 of them they have access to the Germano Treatment Centre, the most experienced facility of it's kind in the Milky Way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 35 minutes ago, belaguttman said: C'mon Kuzi received his injury playing for the Young Socceroos, it ha nothing to do with us. Lucky for the 3 of them they have access to the Germano Treatment Centre, the most experienced facility of it's kind in the Milky Way please stop spreading round earth propaganda 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 58 minutes ago, mattyh001 said: i cant say i'm overly surprised by the four exits; one under performing marquee / inconsistent visa player, a 35 year old who showed at different times through out the season his best days are past him (which is very sad given how underrated Josh Rose was when playing at CCM - i feel the improvement he showed after a very poor start to the season highlighted that Rose had talent; he just couldnt perform week in week out), and two victims of ACL injuries who still have a long road of recovery to return (should they actually make it back to the A League). Rose improved when we stopped playing him in a back 3 and started playing him in a back 4 Just now, strider said: please stop spreading round earth propaganda The turtle holding the elephant holding the flat earth has never held a finer medical rehab institute 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) People have to remember as well that the salary cap rules are due to change next season. At the least, it will increase to $2.9m+ and at the most (unlikely) all visa spots could be exempt. So an extra $300k-$400k is pretty much a decent Australian or Visa Player which would be an obvious upgrade to a minimum wage squaddie. Furthermore I hope the club actually know the possible exemptions from the cap. More precisely the loyalty players and mature age rookie, if we keep turning over players we will never have anyone eligible for $200k outside of the game as a loyalty player. With the mature age rookie, surely there would be someone killing it in the NPL which could be persuaded by a move to club with the facilities and connections blah blah blah (I understand that the best NPL players make a good living from their football wage combined with their regular job). Here is the link to salary cap rules: http://www.a-league.com.au/about Edited May 1, 2017 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 hours ago, haz said: People have to remember as well that the salary cap rules are due to change next season. At the least, it will increase to $2.9m+ and at the most (unlikely) all visa spots could be exempt. So an extra $300k-$400k is pretty much a decent Australian or Visa Player which would be an obvious upgrade to a minimum wage squaddie. Furthermore I hope the club actually know the possible exemptions from the cap. More precisely the loyalty players and mature age rookie, if we keep turning over players we will never have anyone eligible for $200k outside of the game as a loyalty player. With the mature age rookie, surely there would be someone killing it in the NPL which could be persuaded by a move to club with the facilities and connections blah blah blah (I understand that the best NPL players make a good living from their football wage combined with their regular job). Here is the link to salary cap rules: http://www.a-league.com.au/about If one thing is quite clear since CFG took over they are pretty much all over all the rules and exemptions regarding the cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 9 hours ago, belaguttman said: The turtle holding the elephant holding the flat earth has never held a finer medical rehab institute RIP Terry the wokest of them all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 11 hours ago, mattyh001 said: i cant say i'm overly surprised by the four exits; one under performing marquee / inconsistent visa player, a 35 year old who showed at different times through out the season his best days are past him (which is very sad given how underrated Josh Rose was when playing at CCM - i feel the improvement he showed after a very poor start to the season highlighted that Rose had talent; he just couldnt perform week in week out), and two victims of ACL injuries who still have a long road of recovery to return (should they actually make it back to the A League). out of curiosity, how does the maximum squad quota work with contracted players from the youth team? I know that we have to have at least three contracted players aged 20 or under, and that the contracts for the scholarship / youth contracts count towards the salary cap, but it all seems murky since IIRC a number of the youth players can be excluded from the squad number cap of 23 ages to go before the start of next season ... by God this feels like its gonna be a long off season Haz has posted the link to the Salary Cap Rules above. These rules apply to the senior squad. The youth squad is a different beast. The club signs around 15 players to youth contracts, and these sit outside the senior squad and therefore outside the salary cap. These youth players are eligible to play in the A-League, and indeed FFA encourages the use of these players as injury replacements instead of bringing in additional players to fill that role. So really the squad available for A-League matches is around 40 players - it's just that some must be youth players as defined. Overall the rules are complex but, as Jovan says, CFG will be right on top of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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