Heart of Melbourne Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Valkanis now gone. Fuck we are going to win the league. All problems solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 What is Tommy Sorensen doing these days? I noticed he has some official role at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, playmaker said: Compared to the men's team, the women's team is commercially irrelevant. If Kisnorbo is the the best man for the assistant position, so be it, the women will have to survive without him. And no one really gives a fuck about the womens league/ NYL anyway. The mens team is where all the money and interest is. Our womens team is always stacked as it is, i honestly think even JA could coach them to a premiership. Edited November 27, 2017 by kingofhearts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Our womens team is always stacked as it is, i honestly think even JA could coach them to a premiership. That would be an experiment I would love to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, rass said: What is Tommy Sorensen doing these days? I noticed he has some official role at the club. I think he's some sort of ambassador 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 12 hours ago, kingofhearts said: Our womens team is always stacked as it is, i honestly think even JA could coach them to a premiership. I mean, you say that, and granted I haven't been able to see any of the games thus far to be able to physically observe how the team is performing, but they've hardly been going great guns under Paddy so far. Their record after 4 games is only W2 L2, scored 9 conceded 9 and sitting dead centre of the table in 5th. They're only 3 points (and 5 GD) off the top of the table, sure, but it's not exactly the barnstorming form of their first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever City Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Can't play till Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Forever City said: Can't play till Jan Great! Another defender!! Presumably he will play in midfield? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Falastur said: I mean, you say that, and granted I haven't been able to see any of the games thus far to be able to physically observe how the team is performing, but they've hardly been going great guns under Paddy so far. Their record after 4 games is only W2 L2, scored 9 conceded 9 and sitting dead centre of the table in 5th. They're only 3 points (and 5 GD) off the top of the table, sure, but it's not exactly the barnstorming form of their first season. I don't think that we should take much notice of the success or otherwise of the ladies team in terms of how good their coach might or might not be. Granted it's good to see them win, and to have the privilege of seeing players such as Fishlock, Little, Beattie and De Vanna winning something in City colours, but let's face it, the players are not much more than mercenaries parachuted into the club for a few weeks between commitments to overseas clubs. Assessing coaches in the men's competition is hard enough, where one season is the equivalent of about half a season in League 2 or lower tier competitions in England. The task is doubled again for the W-League. Montemurro seemed to have a good first season, but there were rumours last season that the team wasn't functioning well until Kisnorbo took over. Also it needs to be remembered that no-one cared a fig for the W-League until City came in and threw some resources at it; now everyone is playing catch-up and it's harder for us to dominate. 7 minutes ago, Forever City said: Can't play till Jan IMO we're soon going to see a couple of the existing squad making an exit to make a bit of cap room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Forever City said: Can't play till Jan Our savior ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Any word yet about Delbridge being loaned to Adelaide? Surely he has to play for them first. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 That's a good point. Also, couldn't get a contract in MSL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Imtellingyou said: That's a good point. Also, couldn't get a contract in MSL. Not true. Knocked back several offers in the last six months to come back here and give himself a chance of making the World Cup squad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: That's a good point. Also, couldn't get a contract in MSL. Would have been surprised due to the MLS just finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Soccer Stoppage Time reporting that Joyce has been given instructions to get rid of anyone he deems not to be appropriate for his team.They expect at least 3 players to be moved on. Kilkenny is apparently trying to secure a move to Asia, Brattan's loan won't be renewed and Jakobsen won't be here next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 it seems every fucking year we turn over half of our list. No wonder we can't keep a consistent club culture /sustained success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 I'd be concerned to lose Jakobsen or Kilkenny. We really need to have a better option for Brattan before I'd be happy to see him go. SST is rarely accurate in their scoops though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Don't all there contracts expire at the end of the season anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, playmaker said: Don't all there contracts expire at the end of the season anyway? Yes. Players whose contracts/loans/playing contracts finish on 31st May 2018 are: Malik, Muscat, Tongyik, Jakobsen, Metcalfe, Arzani, Brandan, Kilkenny, Mauk (L), Brattan (L), Carrusca, Fitzgerald, Kamau, Cahill(PC), Crowley. Nothing surprising in rumours surrounding any of those listed. What you have to ask is who is on that list who has done enough to warrant an extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Surprised if Jakobsen is true. But I can believe both Brattan and Kilkenny given their game time..... But more importantly im worried about Wazza's love of Malik 5 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Nothing surprising in rumours surrounding any of those listed. What you have to ask is who is on that list who has done enough to warrant an extension? Kilkenny, Jakobsen, Metcalfe, Arzani, Brandan, Carrusca (How much is he on?), Fitzgerald, Kamau (Depends how much he is on) Edited November 29, 2017 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 So Wazza makes Jako captain then decides he needs to be moved on. Doesn't make sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, malloy said: So Wazza makes Jako captain then decides he needs to be moved on. Doesn't make sense. Yea SST talking out of their arse as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Yes. Players whose contracts/loans/playing contracts finish on 31st May 2018 are: Malik, Muscat, Tongyik, Jakobsen, Metcalfe, Arzani, Brandan, Kilkenny, Mauk (L), Brattan (L), Carrusca, Fitzgerald, Kamau, Cahill(PC), Crowley. Nothing surprising in rumours surrounding any of those listed. What you have to ask is who is on that list who has done enough to warrant an extension? Well in that case the original story is insignificant. I am sure Wazza will know exactly who he wants by April and until then there is nothing to discuss really. As with Fernando, well he will have his opportunity to impress and I hope he shows his value to Wazza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Too many fuck nuggets peddling nonsense. It's time for @Dylan to name and shame all you shit talkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Citymad has found a new greek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Citymad has found a new greek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Jako might just want to head back home rather then getting kicked out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, HughJass said: Jako might just want to head back home rather then getting kicked out He's not going to be "kicked out" if he reaches the end of his contract and the club decides not to renew it. One of the problems of having both a numbers and a salary cap is that clubs simply cannot carry players on their books whom they do not consider are really pushing for a starting position. Jakobsen would be well aware of that. It's one of the downsides of coming to the A-League, and one of the reasons why our league does not grow as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Jacques Le Cube said: Soccer Stoppage Time reporting that Joyce has been given instructions to get rid of anyone he deems not to be appropriate for his team.They expect at least 3 players to be moved on. Kilkenny is apparently trying to secure a move to Asia, Brattan's loan won't be renewed and Jakobsen won't be here next season. Well..... While Marwood's six-day visit was initially meant to be routine in nature, it coincided in snuffing out spot fires whipped up by a disaffected Tim Cahill over his lack of game time under Joyce. Ditto midfielder Neil Kilkenny, out-of-favour goalkeeper Dean Bouzanis and, to a lesser degree, midfielder Luke Brattan. https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/11/29/joyce-winner-citys-player-power-drama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 22 minutes ago, HughJass said: Ditto midfielder Neil Kilkenny, out-of-favour goalkeeper Dean Bouzanis and, to a lesser degree, midfielder Luke Brattan. https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/11/29/joyce-winner-citys-player-power-drama What the fuck does Bouzanis have a problem with? Does he think the team needs more balls to be kicked straight out from goal kicks or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 EVery team needs a second keeper.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 You mean Valkanis had a philosophy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 10 hours ago, haz said: What the fuck does Bouzanis have a problem with? Does he think the team needs more balls to be kicked straight out from goal kicks or something? To be fair, Bouzanis doesn't really seem to be the most humble of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Whatever the real truth is that lies behind these reports, IMO it's all very sad that it has happened. The club has been destabilised from inside, just when we thought - or hoped - that finally we could start to build a better club culture and give a better showing in the league this season. No-one benefits from this sort of stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityHeart Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Happy this has happened/is happening, but IMHO provides more questions than it does answers. so who is running this particular club? Would anything have been done if Marwood wasnt here (by chance)? Rumours/obviously now facts of this have been around for months before the season started - why was it allowed to fester? Why are we in this position right now, the last day of November? What exactly does our CEO do? What should his job be? So CFG give him carte blanche to run it, or is he a puppet? How can the club have gone absolutely nowhere in 10 years, no profile or crowd improvements at all yet the same CEO is there who oversaw a total of 3 coaches in 10 years of misery still have this bloke in charge? It beggars belief. My feel is that CFG have tried to run it 'perfectly' with their own ideals across the group - but Pep in Manchester is showing that you need to give full faith to your coach and give him the support he needs. Patience is fine, but not for the sake of patience. You either back in your man or you dont. One cant be half pregnant. Hopefully this is all for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Whatever the real truth is that lies behind these reports, IMO it's all very sad that it has happened. The club has been destabilised from inside, just when we thought - or hoped - that finally we could start to build a better club culture and give a better showing in the league this season. No-one benefits from this sort of stuff. I actually disagree. This sort of stuff can be the step back needed to take two steps forward when done properly. If not done properly however 4 minutes ago, CityHeart said: Happy this has happened/is happening, but IMHO provides more questions than it does answers. so who is running this particular club? Would anything have been done if Marwood wasnt here (by chance)? Rumours/obviously now facts of this have been around for months before the season started - why was it allowed to fester? Why are we in this position right now, the last day of November? What exactly does our CEO do? What should his job be? So CFG give him carte blanche to run it, or is he a puppet? How can the club have gone absolutely nowhere in 10 years, no profile or crowd improvements at all yet the same CEO is there who oversaw a total of 3 coaches in 10 years of misery still have this bloke in charge? It beggars belief. My feel is that CFG have tried to run it 'perfectly' with their own ideals across the group - but Pep in Manchester is showing that you need to give full faith to your coach and give him the support he needs. Patience is fine, but not for the sake of patience. You either back in your man or you dont. One cant be half pregnant. Hopefully this is all for the best. Tbh i think you are misunderstanding the role of the CEO. It certainly appears in CFG run clubs that the CEO has little to do with the actual football department outside of budgetary constraints and ensuring resources are provided. Regardless, I've no doubt CFG are watching Munn closely an ultimately, if they deem him the right guy for the task, then I'm happy enough with that. Likewise, if they move him on then there's no accusation of him not being given every chance. Edited November 29, 2017 by bt50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, bt50 said: I actually disagree. This sort of stuff can be the step back needed to take two steps forward when done properly. If not done properly however I would agree with you had the four players named as mutineers left the club along with Valkanis. However they are still there, at least until the next window. I'm afraid I can't see that as being helpful. The swamp has not been drained properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I would agree with you had the four players named as mutineers left the club along with Valkanis. However they are still there, at least until the next window. I'm afraid I can't see that as being helpful. The swamp has not been drained properly. Eh theyre being given a chance, and its not as simple as getting rid of them on the spot as you know with the salary cap etc. I'm sure if they regress theyll be moved on pretty quick in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Should have been sorted out in the pre season FFS. Its 6 months long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Dylan said: Should have been sorted out in the pre season FFS. Its 6 months long! You're assuming there was an issue in the pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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