jw1739 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, Alexxxandro said: I don't understand why we got to the point with JA of having banners etc but with JVS we've never done that. Actually I do understand: it's because JA was so clearly shit anyone could understand that but JVS is actually worse for the club than JA ever was because he runs a fine line between total shit and possibly quite good but actually not really. I have worked with a number of people like that (nothing to do with football). The two that come most readily to mind built successful careers out of it - and were quite highly paid as well. It must be a knack that some people have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Its all about the triumph of hope over reality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alexxxandro said: I don't understand why we got to the point with JA of having banners etc but with JVS we've never done that. Actually I do understand: it's because JA was so clearly shit anyone could understand that but JVS is actually worse for the club than JA ever was because he runs a fine line between total shit and possibly quite good but actually not really. Dont forget we went through 2 seasons of utter shit under jvs before aloisi, so by the time we saw the spectacular non winning run of aloisi, most of us were well and truly fed up with the excuses and bullshit. Now we have rebranded and attracted a lot of new fans who did not have the displeasure of witnessing the jvs brand of passing the ball between the keeper and defenders for hours we are hearing the same excuses all the jvs fanboys used to use. He needs more time, the players didnt show up, he is dutch so he must be better than an Australian coach, if he had a better squad, etc etc. So the fans (again) are not putting any pressure on the club to get rid of him. And then he slips in a cheeky demolition of a struggling team or a derby win to keep all the newbies hopes up that he will eventually deliver the goods. Its extraordinary to think the 4th most experienced coach in the leauges history is an import that has won absolutely nothing (not even close to it), shown no signs of improvement at all and is able to use the excuse "we are a work in progress" without anyone batting an eyelid. At any other club this cunt would have been lynched years ago. Edited November 7, 2016 by KSK_47 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 BTW we are due for a new JVS Hipster on this forum... as in those blokes who come here and act all intellectual in defence of his coaching until they realise how shit he truly is and either join our side or leave for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, cadete said: BTW we are due for a new JVS Hipster on this forum... as in those blokes who come here and act all intellectual in defence of his coaching until they realise how shit he truly is and either join our side or leave for good. Chris P seems a good candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 18 minutes ago, cadete said: BTW we are due for a new JVS Hipster on this forum... as in those blokes who come here and act all intellectual in defence of his coaching until they realise how shit he truly is and either join our side or leave for good. Join the facebook group "Melbourne city fans unite". Take your pick. There are plenty to choose from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 58 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Join the facebook group "Melbourne city fans unite". Take your pick. There are plenty to choose from I am pretty that they declined my submission for membership... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, cadete said: I am pretty that they declined my submission for membership... Here is an actual post " I'll admit Friday night's match frustrated me so much but i actually blame John Aloisi's playing style with was pretty much just sit back defend and then counter although JVS should have a tactic to try and score against a team that tries this in the future, i still think that our ladder position ain't so bad and that a 1 goal loss away from home and against a team that defended well but played a relatively negative and ugly game style so early in the season isn't so bad " Its not JVS' fault we were terrible. It was Aloisi's fault for using effective tactics! Holy mother of god. Can everyone please join this group and try to talk some sense into these people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Should we ask what the Swan Street Elite thinks of JVS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Here is an actual post " I'll admit Friday night's match frustrated me so much but i actually blame John Aloisi's playing style with was pretty much just sit back defend and then counter although JVS should have a tactic to try and score against a team that tries this in the future, i still think that our ladder position ain't so bad and that a 1 goal loss away from home and against a team that defended well but played a relatively negative and ugly game style so early in the season isn't so bad " Its not JVS' fault we were terrible. It was Aloisi's fault for using effective tactics! Holy mother of god. Can everyone please join this group and try to talk some sense into these people! Bloke probably uses the exist for the reason why we always do shit against Perth, never mind the fact that Perth has played Counter-Attacking football before JVS had heard that Australia had its own domestic league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 2 hours ago, cadete said: Bloke probably uses the exist for the reason why we always do shit against Perth, never mind the fact that Perth has played Counter-Attacking football before JVS had heard that Australia had its own domestic league. Apparently a well organized defence with a dangerous counter attack equals parking the bus and negative tactics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 4 hours ago, cadete said: I am pretty that they declined my submission for membership... Sadly ironic given the name of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 14 hours ago, KSK_47 said: Apparently a well organized defence with a dangerous counter attack equals parking the bus and negative tactics Yes, even though it working was pretty bloody well for UK sides in the late 70's/early 80's in Europe until they got banned for crowd issues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 On 07/11/2016 at 3:54 PM, cadete said: I am pretty that they declined my submission for membership... You're too radical and extreme, know nothing about Dutch football and still talk about nsl wog ball way too much Membership declined. Sorry dont bother reapplying. They are too busy watching reruns of holland World Cup's successful campaigns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityHeart Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 WTF was that? That 2nd half in particular was a physical manifestation of JVS' mindset. Paralyzed with fear of failure. An utter cancer who has the best list in the league, yet single handedly is gonna turn people away from our games in droves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, CityHeart said: WTF was that? That 2nd half in particular was a physical manifestation of JVS' mindset. Paralyzed with fear of failure. An utter cancer who has the best list in the league, yet single handedly is gonna turn people away from our games in droves. Was like watching an old heart game. Except we have well above average players who occasionally do things to distract us from how terribly organized we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 It wasn't bad tactics tbf, but there was little structure, pass it about the back, if we get it forward just pass it about till individual brilliance affords us a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, moops said: little structure, pass it about the back, if we get it forward just pass it about till individual brilliance affords us a chance. Sounds like bad tactics to me. Absolutely embarrassing that we have imported this guy and the most he can contribute to the growth of the local game is "get really good players and let them score awesome goals". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Wow. Crosses = chances. Who would've known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 21 minutes ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said: Wow. Crosses = chances. Who would've known. Figuring out basic football things is a work in progress 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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playmaker Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 46 minutes ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said: Wow. Crosses = chances. Who would've known. He is up to page 105 now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 the second half was ??????? kamau was cooked by the 70th minute as was Cahill but no sign of subs till the 84 th minute i always thought we were going to be caught on the break get out of jail card for JVS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 This guy is not normal. Why the hell does he wait so long to make subs? Sends players to do a warm up half time then makes them sit till the 85th minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Tony999 said: This guy is not normal. Why the hell does he wait so long to make subs? Sends players to do a warm up half time then makes them sit till the 85th minute. Could be worse. I've just come back from watching my home town team take on Arsenal's U-18s in a friendly game; phone said it was 6C at best with a horrible wind whipping through. The Arsenal academy manager had his subs warming up through the entire match, and then decided to use absolutely none of them. The team that started the game were the same one that finished it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Falastur said: Could be worse. I've just come back from watching my home town team take on Arsenal's U-18s in a friendly game; phone said it was 6C at best with a horrible wind whipping through. The Arsenal academy manager had his subs warming up through the entire match, and then decided to use absolutely none of them. The team that started the game were the same one that finished it. Ballarat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jovan said: Ballarat? Assuming you're asking who my home town team are, you're looking on the wrong side of the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchin_Town_F.C. If that was, on the other hand, a joke about Ballarat being cold or something, unfortunately my lack of Australian knowledge means I didn't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 4/6/2016 at 8:49 AM, Embee said: It's not. He's broken several stories this season (Mauk and Koren's departures for example) and apparently there's a bit of annoyance within the football club that he continues to break these stories and clearly has a leak that feeds him the information. Around two years ago. Essentially any joke about either weather or intelligence in this forum is usually met with a Ballarat joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Tommykins said: Essentially any joke about either weather or intelligence in this forum is usually met with a Ballarat joke. Ah, got it. Consider me Ballarated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Ballaratted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 20 hours ago, jw1739 said: Ballaratted? Can we just change it to BT'ed for short? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citymad Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 On 06/11/2016 at 4:05 PM, NewConvert said: Precisely. The loss of confidence by the players, supporters and sponsors has to be a net cost. the only real harm at the moment is that we don't have enough quality defensive players and whomever comes in will have to deal with that conundrum. As i understand, another defensive player is being scouted to take the place of the injured winger Kuzmanovski. hopefully for January. maybe by then JVS will be gone and the new caoch will have the defensive stocks he needs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Jvs arrived and he just was there. Then he left, we though he was gone for good but he returned. For a while he was in the background just lingering there without any benefit. We almost forgot he was there and all of a sudden bang... he is officially here again. We sort of got used to having him around and realized that we stuck with him. Most people want him gone, some don't care any more because nothing seems to work and he just won't go away. Tell me please is there any difference between jvs and herpes??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewConvert Posted November 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 36 minutes ago, Jestr said: Jvs arrived and he just was there. Then he left, we though he was gone for good but he returned. For a while he was in the background just lingering there without any benefit. We almost forgot he was there and all of a sudden bang... he is officially here again. We sort of got used to having him around and realized that we stuck with him. Most people want him gone, some don't care any more because nothing seems to work and he just won't go away. Tell me please is there any difference between jvs and herpes??? With herpes you must have had some enjoyment at least once... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxandro Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 JVS has less than a season to go... and will leave us with a great legacy in the form of "JVS" being shorthand for failure. I thank him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 This season I think it's 7 wins out of 9 matches (Cup + league) so far... Only Arnold doing better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 51 minutes ago, jw1739 said: This season I think it's 7 wins out of 9 matches (Cup + league) so far... Only Arnold doing better. Still doesnt erase his track record. No excuses for an imported to still be a work in progress after all these years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Still doesnt erase his track record. No excuses for an imported to still be a work in progress after all these years I was, of course, being cynical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I was, of course, being cynical... Haha. Oh right. Of course. I thought it was a bit out of character for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 This thread has deteriorated @malloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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