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Look I agree with your sentiments about branding being important and that the brands themselves may try to get players to change clubs, but that's not really adding anything to your theory that VIlla is going to the MLS because of the kit maker. Do you think that article is accurate and not in any way fabricated because a journo was bored?

 

I really don't think we're at the point yet where players move clubs because of branding. Sure, it's a money driven game but I would be surprised if branding had any more influence than playing style/intended playing style/lifestyle/culture and straight up cold hard cash.

 

In Villa's case I would imagine that New York seemed like a good fit for all the reasons above.

 

Brands have an enormous influence on clubs. A player wearing your branded top is worth far more than wearing their shoes.  It is not necessarily a coincidence that Beckham went from Man United to Read (Adidas) and then on loan to AC Milan (Adidas).  Yes he did sign for a short period with PSG (nike) however this was after he signed a long term deal with Adidas.

 

Balotelli was highly linked with Arsenal (both sponsored by Puma). But the transfer fee could not be agreed

 

Villa - Adidas     Lampard - Adidas.

 

Look at the national teams. Ronaldo wears Adidas for Real but in order for Nike to get him to wear a nike top they sponsor Portugal.  Ribery the same.  Germany, Englan, Brazil, Dutch, Spain etc You need your player wearing your top. That's the money shot!

 

It helped NYC and Adidas that Villa and Lampard are associated with Adidas.  In sponsorship terms, as a player this had added at least 4 years of additional apparel sponsorship at a rate higher than had they continued to play in Europe.    

 

Money controls clubs - and apparel sponsorships are the highest income generators for clubs.  

 

A nike Melbourne city top would easily outsell a Kappa Melbourne City top.

 

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Who is his apparel sponsor?

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Look I agree with your sentiments about branding being important and that the brands themselves may try to get players to change clubs, but that's not really adding anything to your theory that VIlla is going to the MLS because of the kit maker. Do you think that article is accurate and not in any way fabricated because a journo was bored?

 

I really don't think we're at the point yet where players move clubs because of branding. Sure, it's a money driven game but I would be surprised if branding had any more influence than playing style/intended playing style/lifestyle/culture and straight up cold hard cash.

 

In Villa's case I would imagine that New York seemed like a good fit for all the reasons above.

 

Brands have an enormous influence on clubs. A player wearing your branded top is worth far more than wearing their shoes.  It is not necessarily a coincidence that Beckham went from Man United to Read (Adidas) and then on loan to AC Milan (Adidas).  Yes he did sign for a short period with PSG (nike) however this was after he signed a long term deal with Adidas.

 

Balotelli was highly linked with Arsenal (both sponsored by Puma). But the transfer fee could not be agreed

 

Villa - Adidas     Lampard - Adidas.

 

Look at the national teams. Ronaldo wears Adidas for Real but in order for Nike to get him to wear a nike top they sponsor Portugal.  Ribery the same.  Germany, Englan, Brazil, Dutch, Spain etc You need your player wearing your top. That's the money shot!

 

It helped NYC and Adidas that Villa and Lampard are associated with Adidas.  In sponsorship terms, as a player this had added at least 4 years of additional apparel sponsorship at a rate higher than had they continued to play in Europe.    

 

Money controls clubs - and apparel sponsorships are the highest income generators for clubs.  

 

A nike Melbourne city top would easily outsell a Kappa Melbourne City top.

 

hi-res-9dfccef78627b3ac7eeaed2ed952ec2b_

 

Who is his apparel sponsor?

 

 

I think the issue with that is that in almost all of the club cases (international kits are pretty irrelevant, since a player is never going to refuse to play for his national team just because it isn't sponsored by his preferred brand), it would probably be easier for the giants like Adidas and Nike to let the player go wherever he wanted and just blow the club away with an offer to align with them as soon as possible, than it would be to worry about getting that player to a club that already has a deal with this or that apparel brand. It seems like clubs change brands almost as regularly as they change players

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This is a bit strange: NYC has announced that it will be wearing Adidas.

http://www.nycfc.com/post/2014/11/10/new-york-city-fc-adds-adidas-official-partner

Wonder what Manchester City's deal with Nike is and whether City will be changing to the three stripes in the near future, as well?

From memory, MLS signed a deal with Adidas for their kits similar to our inaugural A-League season when Reebok sponsors all clubs' kits. So this is something they can't do anything about.

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

They should be thrown in a pile and set alight. Along with velcro wallets, sandals, mens necklaces and anything fluro(unless you are a tradesperson)

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

Why?

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

that's ageist

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

Why?

Actually bugger why, I love snapbacks, picked up a Melbourne city one today. I think they are stylish. End of story.

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saw some of last years Heart jerseys at rebel for 50 bucks over the weekend, down from 120

There's heart jerseys for $19 at a discount sport store near etihad! Along with some other Merch

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

I'm in shock that I seem to be the only one on this forum who doesn't know what a "snapback" is.

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There's heart jerseys for $19 at a discount sport store near etihad! Along with some other Merch

As in the southern cross station precinct?

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There's heart jerseys for $19 at a discount sport store near etihad! Along with some other Merch

As in the southern cross station precinct?

 

I think he means SportingHouseDirect at Harbour Town.

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There's heart jerseys for $19 at a discount sport store near etihad! Along with some other Merch

As in the southern cross station precinct?

I think he means SportingHouseDirect at Harbour Town.

Yeah think that's the one !

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I'm still in shock that not only do grown men continue to wear snapbacks, but that they also get excited over them...

I'm in shock that I seem to be the only one on this forum who doesn't know what a "snapback" is.

 

 

Its an old age thing, apparently you can end up in a nursing home with a snapback. 

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We seriously need better merchandise, the designs are horrible!!

They sell some crap don't they. Then the players run out with some of the best gear in the league. Not for sale.

Bloody idiots.

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has anyone here used/worn macron before?

yeah my Aston villa kits are macron, and i love them

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I really, really want City training jackets. Saw a few guys with them anyone have any ideas!? Made by Nike of course

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Really wanting a polo shirt to be honest.

 

Kind of sick of being one of those people who have to wear my City kit when going out to show my colours.

 

ATM just using my Melb Heart polo's

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We seriously need better merchandise, the designs are horrible!!

They sell some crap don't they. Then the players run out with some of the best gear in the league. Not for sale.

Bloody idiots.

 

 

Surely they understand what profits they could be making if they make more merchandise available.

 

Not only do they need more merchandise, they also need some proper art direction. The stuff available looks horrid and as if they have gone to supplier that makes small business polo shirts and stuck a logo on it. 

 

Western Sydney are still the best looking team in the A-League

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has anyone here used/worn macron before?

 

Have some West Ham Macron stuff, Not too bad. Sponsor iron ons were rubbish and fell of fairly quickly on one of my shirts (Avoidable if known about tho). Material is thicker than say your Nike/Adidas stuff but still fairly breathable. TBH better quality than the Adidas kits we currently have, would say below my nike england kit.

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Our last season kits were Macron. Not bad apart from the socks. Collar were a great change.

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anyone else think the merchandise for sale at games gets less and less stock each game?  

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All the current merch (except home kit and now the new caps) has FFAs fingerprints all over it.

 

I'm guessing that sort of poor merch is the minimum a club can offer and is driven by the FFA (I'm hoping anyway) and the reason is probably due the whole "nike is slow to get gear out for new clubs" mantra.

 

with any luck the new caps are the thin edge of the wedge and the nike driven merch train is about to pull into station like a fat football club santa on Christmas eve.

 

mixed metaphors brought to you at no extra cost

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Literally just got off the phone from the club.

 

No new kits, home or away, until January.

that's fucking shocking if true, waiting for december has been bad enough

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Literally just got off the phone from the club.

 

No new kits, home or away, until January.

that's fucking shocking if true, waiting for december has been bad enough

 

Ive ben told by someone else that they were advised that they expect the away kits to be ready before the Derby.

 

It seems like the story changes every week.

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Literally just got off the phone from the club.

 

No new kits, home or away, until January.

If this is true, sack every cunt that has had anything to do with this process.

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anyone else think the merchandise for sale at games gets less and less stock each game?

Maybe people are buying it

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Heard that they dont want to release the away kit by itself before official merch so it doesnt get a free run

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Literally just got off the phone from the club.

 

No new kits, home or away, until January.

FFS. Surely if nothing else greed would make they want to bring it out before Christmas?

 

Heard that they dont want to release the away kit by itself before official merch so it doesnt get a free run

But there is already merch?

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Literally just got off the phone from the club.

No new kits, home or away, until January.

FFS. Surely if nothing else greed would make they want to bring it out before Christmas?

Heard that they dont want to release the away kit by itself before official merch so it doesnt get a free run

But there is already merch?

Official nike merch

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anyone else think the merchandise for sale at games gets less and less stock each game?

Maybe people are buying it

And you would think the club would still be getting stock in wouldn't ya?

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WSW had the same issue in their first season. It seems like Nike are real cunts to clients in their first year of a contract 

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