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Alibaba is a Chinese company not a US company.

Humble pie eaten. Misinterpreted the forthcoming US listing.

It's actually surprising how unknown Alibaba seems to be in Australia (and presumably most of the West with maybe the exception of the US) given it's about to undergo one of the largest IPOs ever and it's revenue is higher than ebay and Amazon combined.

It's an interesting acquisition, not sure how it fits into their business though.

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This is from the Pelister v Vardar rival match yesterday that kicked off the football season in Macedonia. Vardar won the game 1-0, but the game was soured by this shocking incident in the last minute. Who knows why the cop is even carrying stun grenades on him at such a close proximity to the supporters. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQUpE8CnLu4

 

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Can someone explain what actually happened there?

Originally I heard that the cop had dropped the stun grenade, but apparently it was thrown into the away bay (Vardar fans). The guy whose hand was partially blown off went to pick it up, and it exploded in his hand. A few others were injured as well. I don't know why the police advanced on the away fans, they didn't seem to be provoked or anything. They were basically trapped in that little corner. The crowd also started to chant 'shiptarska policia,' which just means Albanian police. The reason for this is because the police in Macedonia often target Macedonians, yet turn a blind eye to Albanian activity. It's not really a surprise though that this incident occurred. Police brutality has been a major issue in Macedonia for a number of years now, and there were large protests and a social media campaign a few years back about this.

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They advanced on the fans because apparently instead of keeping away fans in after the game as you would see in other countries when there is a derby, in Macedonia they make the away fans leave 15 minutes before the end of the game. A section of the Vardar fans refused (obviously the group in the video). Police threw the stun grenade, the bloke tried to pick it up and throw it away from the fans, it blew up in his hand.

Latest information is the bloke's hand was saved but he had 2 fingers amputated.

Moral of the story, don't try that COD shit in real life.

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They advanced on the fans because apparently instead of keeping away fans in after the game as you would see in other countries when there is a derby, in Macedonia they make the away fans leave 15 minutes before the end of the game. A section of the Vardar fans refused (obviously the group in the video). Police threw the stun grenade, the bloke tried to pick it up and throw it away from the fans, it blew up in his hand.

Latest information is the bloke's hand was saved but he had 2 fingers amputated.

Moral of the story, don't try that COD shit in real life.

 

The interior ministry put the blame on the fan, saying that he took the grenade and activated it himself. I don't know if I believe that though, it wouldn't be the first time the IM is full of shit. I was speaking to someone who lives in Macedonia and he said that there are incidents at most Vardar matches and even other sports that the Komiti supporters group is involved in. An altercation between fans and police apparently occurs at least once in every round.

 

At the end of the day, the bloke was lucky to only lose a few fingers. It was nice to see the Ckembari fans visit him in hospital too. A lot of the Macedonian ultra groups are starting to work together a lot more in terms of promoting a number of causes.

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Photo from outside the stadium, outstanding display.

Photo from outside the stadium, outstanding display.

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Photo from outside the stadium, outstanding display.

Wow, great photo mate!

Did you take this yourself?

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Asamoah Gyan now amongst the highest paid players in the world, signing a £227,000p/w deal with Shanghai SIGP after leaving Al Ain where he was on a measly £160,000 p/w. Bloke has certainly made the most of his career financially.

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Mat Ryan's signed with Valencia, and with Diego Alves injured for the season Ryan will be the number 1 at a top 4 La Liga club at the age of 23.
 

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Are the centres of power shifting?

A lot of big names heading to China now and its not just "pensioners".  Easy to see why, with the huge sums of money they are prepared to pay.

How about this offer to Ighalo.  >f300k/week.  

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/02/06/ighalo-rejected-chinese-offer-615000-week

Mind boggling stuff.  You can see why Sainsbury has gone, firstly set for life (though obviously he wouldn't get that sort of money) and secondly if teams are bringing strikers like this you will be playing at a high standard. 

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3 hours ago, Shahanga said:

Are the centres of power shifting?

A lot of big names heading to China now and its not just "pensioners".  Easy to see why, with the huge sums of money they are prepared to pay.

How about this offer to Ighalo.  >f300k/week.  

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/02/06/ighalo-rejected-chinese-offer-615000-week

Mind boggling stuff.  You can see why Sainsbury has gone, firstly set for life (though obviously he wouldn't get that sort of money) and secondly if teams are bringing strikers like this you will be playing at a high standard. 

 

 

Crazy amounts.

Difficult to see how they'll recover that money though.  I see two problems.  First, they can only have 5 non-Chinese players, 4 non-Asian players.  That's a pretty big bottleneck right there.  Especially when you consider China can't even qualify for the WC in a confederation that Australia has shown quite well in.

Second problem I see is that while these players are very good (and young) most of them showed pretty badly at their big European clubs.  They don't bring fanbases either, partly, because they are young.  And worst of all, they'll likely take a hit with their national teams which will create a different stigma for China.

The Chinese players around these players just aren't to the caliber to make these investments worth it at this junction.

Of course, if this is all really being financed by the Chinese government then this is just the tip of the iceberg probably...

 

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it's interesting to say the least, at least it's bringing more publicity to Asian football

I've always though the Chinese Super League had potential to be big, I personally wouldn't be surprised if the next step was to do away with visa spot limitations because clearly the financial backing isn't an issue.

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2 hours ago, NYCFCFan10 said:

Crazy amounts.

Difficult to see how they'll recover that money though.  I see two problems.  First, they can only have 5 non-Chinese players, 4 non-Asian players.  That's a pretty big bottleneck right there.  Especially when you consider China can't even qualify for the WC in a confederation that Australia has shown quite well in.

Second problem I see is that while these players are very good (and young) most of them showed pretty badly at their big European clubs.  They don't bring fanbases either, partly, because they are young.  And worst of all, they'll likely take a hit with their national teams which will create a different stigma for China.

The Chinese players around these players just aren't to the caliber to make these investments worth it at this junction.

Of course, if this is all really being financed by the Chinese government then this is just the tip of the iceberg probably...

 

Funny how a country with 1.3 billion people can't find just 11 players good enough for them to qualify for the World Cup.

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3 hours ago, Pete Heartspur said:

Doesn't the chinese government now own part of our club now?

China Media Capital and CITIC Capital  owns 13% of CFG while the other 87% is owned by Abu Dhabi United Group. But I don't think CMC is owned by the chinese govt as it is a public equity firm.

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You look at the explosion of Chinese investment even "private" investment like the Chinese-company Ledman sponsoring the Portugese second division but demanding the caveat of the top 10 squads needing to include a chinese player in their squad and each club needing to have 3 chinese assistant coaches.  What "private" investors impose terms like that?  lol

At the same time we see the huge Chinese investment in CFG and the Chinese League TV deal, from state-owned TV, went from abour $15 million/year to about $300 million/year, it's pretty clear who is pulling the strings behind the curtains here...

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FIFA thinking they can get involved in international politics by letting Kosovo in :droy: 

No UN membership, no national team, should be simple.

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Panama looked the far better team for the opening half hour, despite going behind. Shame about the red card because they had Argentina under the pump.

 

Shit refereeing in the Chile game, Bolivia absolutely robbed with the penalty at the end. And we think A-League refs are pretty ordinary.

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No idea where to put this so i'll try my luck here

Looking to head over to england and possibly spain and germany early next year, does anyone have any good sites to buy tickets off

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