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Dylan    4,124

 

This is what happens when you use sub-par facilities to run a professional football club. And I'm being very generous in saying sub-par. What is the fitness staff doing

 

I feel like this club gets the little details wrong quite often. 

 

 

 

Well this is why they do little training at LaTrobe anymore. They moved to epping and Bulleen for this preseason.

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mstam    42

Aloisi has taken over the fitness aspect this pre-season saying last year that was the reason we struggled, looks like he is doing a great job!

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HeartinHobart    740

Who the fuck is going to play CB round 1? No Gerhardt and possibly no Wielardt.

When you have such a small squad, spots in the squad can't be wasted. Unfortunately heart have. Hoffman and Mitchinson are definitely wasted spots and to a certain extent McCallister is too. I'm starting to get rather worried about the upcoming season.

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Tommykins    623

I very much doubt he's been pigeon-holed just yet, its likely due to the raft of changes we had in the middle of last year that he was playing at all and as a result, he was called upon to play left back. In the youth team he's played centre half and central midfield, hardly 'specialised'.

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jw1739    6,964

Mitchinson is OK. Has a lot more ability than people are giving him credit for. I'd rather have him playing for me than a number of other higher-paid non-performers that we have.

 

My concern is we have 21 signed players, of whom 4 are out of action - Engelaar, Germano, Kalmar and now Wielaert. Leaves 17 fit players. Match day squad is now 16 - 11 starters and 5 substitutes. Leaves us no room to move at all.

 

We just don't have the required depth. Add to the mix that we're going to lose blokes such as Walker, Vranks and Garuccio for representative games.

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belaguttman    3,752

I've been concerned since Day 1 about our high injury rate in training, and they are never minor injures. I was hoping that the move from LaTrobe would change this but I'm just as concerned. I think that we lose more games from events that occur on the training pitch than on match day

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Murfy1    3,149

On injuries, here are the numbers (from the PFA's 2011/2012 & 2012/2013 Injury Reports):

 

Last season (2012/2013), Heart had the 2nd worst injury rank, with players missing 67 games due to injury (Sydney was worse with 92 games). The previous season (2011/2012 or Season 7) Heart was 3rd worst (13% in the hard to read diagram below, btw), regarding the amount of games missed due to injury, which was 97 games (Gold Coast, with 128, and Perth, with 145, were worse).

 

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Last season we missed 2.5 players a round due to injury, the second worst ranking (behind Sydney at 3.4). And during the season before that (2011/2012), we missed 3.6 players per round due to injury, the 3rd worst ranking (behind Gold Coast, 4.7, and Perth, 5.4).

 

Here's the number of injuries over the past 2 seasons, alongside the number of games missed. Heart has roughly the league average of injuries per season, but we have a higher number of games missed due to injury than other clubs, which means we either have worse injuries or slower recoveries.

 

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Heart's injuries are also some of the most expensive in the league, with Heart's injuries being the 2nd most expensive last season (2012/2013) and the 2nd most expensive the season before that (2011/2012) as well. Injuries cost Heart roughly half a million dollars a season.

 

 

 

A lot of room for improvement.

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jw1739    6,964

 

done knee ligaments could be out for a few months, just a text I got from a friend.

if it he was out for a few months, surely the club would've posted it by now

 

I'm hoping that this is a reference to a known previous injury 2-3 years ago and someone has dredged it up as being recent.

 

However, the club is not noted for being transparent about injuries. (Understatement.)

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jw1739    6,964

Wielaert has a sprained ankle. Should be OK for Round 1.

 

Source: Scott Munn, Twitter, today about 1 hr ago.

 

Once again though, it looks as if injuries and and injury management are going to be a major factor in our chances this season. Just looking in from the outside it appears to me that this is an area where we need to get some additional expertise on board. Too many players are out for too long for us to be competitive.

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heart_fan10    430

Wielaert has a sprained ankle. Should be OK for Round 1.

Source: Scott Munn, Twitter, today about 1 hr ago.

Once again though, it looks as if injuries and and injury management are going to be a major factor in our chances this season. Just looking in from the outside it appears to me that this is an area where we need to get some additional expertise on board. Too many players are out for too long for us to be competitive.

Good news then.

It's no secret that our injury management is quite poor. Engelaar's injury was a freak accident, there's not much we can do about that. But I see no reason why we shouldn't have a full squad to select from come round 1

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LR9    2,250

Wielaert has a sprained ankle. Should be OK for Round 1.

 

Source: Scott Munn, Twitter, today about 1 hr ago.

 

Once again though, it looks as if injuries and and injury management are going to be a major factor in our chances this season. Just looking in from the outside it appears to me that this is an area where we need to get some additional expertise on board. Too many players are out for too long for us to be competitive.

As we know, Scott Munn is about as reliable as Christian7...

If he only has a sprained ankle he would 'definitely' be fit for round one, given that the injury occurred so many weeks ago.

 

There is more to it, as far as I know its an achilles injury, and they are a bitch to deal with and tend to result in re-injury at some stage.

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TheGaffer    39

 

Wielaert has a sprained ankle. Should be OK for Round 1.

 

Source: Scott Munn, Twitter, today about 1 hr ago.

 

Once again though, it looks as if injuries and and injury management are going to be a major factor in our chances this season. Just looking in from the outside it appears to me that this is an area where we need to get some additional expertise on board. Too many players are out for too long for us to be competitive.

As we know, Scott Munn is about as reliable as Christian7...

If he only has a sprained ankle he would 'definitely' be fit for round one, given that the injury occurred so many weeks ago.

 

There is more to it, as far as I know its an achilles injury, and they are a bitch to deal with and tend to result in re-injury at some stage.

 

He would not want to come out and say that Wielaert has an achilles injury and admit the fact that BOTH his international signings could be out of action for the whole season.

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Jestr    1,230

Rob Wielaert should be right for round 1

Question is how right is he going to be?

Simply being there isn't going to cut it against the tards.

Crap!!

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AJB45T4RD    95

Direct from the Dutchman's mouth, I spoke with Rob Wielaert after last nights Oakleigh game. He is confident that he will indeed be ready for round 1, he says that he is moving around easier since swelling has eased and seemed quite sure that he'll be okay come Derby time. Here's hoping that his self prognosis will be accurate. I spoke with Massimo as well, going by his tone and response it appears that Orlando's injury is as bad as we have heard...but he seems sure that Englaar will be back in time for finals providing we be competitive and make it there this season...so fingers crossed we still might see him in the Red & White again.

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kingofhearts    3,268

Direct from the Dutchman's mouth, I spoke with Rob Wielaert after last nights Oakleigh game. He is confident that he will indeed be ready for round 1, he says that he is moving around easier since swelling has eased and seemed quite sure that he'll be okay come Derby time. Here's hoping that his self prognosis will be accurate. I spoke with Massimo as well, going by his tone and response it appears that Orlando's injury is as bad as we have heard...but he seems sure that Englaar will be back in time for finals providing we be competitive and make it there this season...so fingers crossed we still might see him in the Red & White again.

Does anyone know what happen to Wielart? Surely there must be more to his injury than a rolled ankle

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Nate    2,567

 

Direct from the Dutchman's mouth, I spoke with Rob Wielaert after last nights Oakleigh game. He is confident that he will indeed be ready for round 1, he says that he is moving around easier since swelling has eased and seemed quite sure that he'll be okay come Derby time. Here's hoping that his self prognosis will be accurate. I spoke with Massimo as well, going by his tone and response it appears that Orlando's injury is as bad as we have heard...but he seems sure that Englaar will be back in time for finals providing we be competitive and make it there this season...so fingers crossed we still might see him in the Red & White again.

Does anyone know what happen to Wielart? Surely there must be more to his injury than a rolled ankle

 

Apparently he had an achilles problem earlier in pre-season so whether or not that's still affecting him I'm not sure, but at this stage it's just the rolled ankle. 

 

They can be pretty nasty sometimes, he'll be right for Round 1 though providing he stays injury-free  :up:

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Nate    2,567

Another stuff up by the club. Sounds like he was injured when they signed him up.

A rolled ankle can happen to anybody, the achilles injury might be of some concern though but apparently it's meant to be all sorted.

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Tommykins    623

Another stuff up by the club. Sounds like he was injured when they signed him up.

 

Doubt it mate, he played against LaTrobe, he wouldn't have been risked at all in that game with an underlying injury.

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Another stuff up by the club. Sounds like he was injured when they signed him up.

 

Doubt it mate, he played against LaTrobe, he wouldn't have been risked at all in that game with an underlying injury.

 

 

time will tell. wait till the Achilles snaps, there goes another player

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jw1739    6,964

I've just about had a gutful of this club 

As I recall it, a few months/weeks ago fans were crying out for a marquee player or two instead of trying to find and develop young local players.

So do we take a risk and sign the Wielaerts and the Engelaars, or go with the Vrankovics and Archibalds?

With just 23 spots available we can't have our cake and eat it too.

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belaguttman    3,752

 

I've just about had a gutful of this club 

As I recall it, a few months/weeks ago fans were crying out for a marquee player or two instead of trying to find and develop young local players.

So do we take a risk and sign the Wielaerts and the Engelaars, or go with the Vrankovics and Archibalds?

With just 23 spots available we can't have our cake and eat it too.

 

We need a mix of young and old, but the Kewells/Weilaerts/ Engelaars of the team are not going to be there long-term. Our future rests with the young players, the McGraths, Archibalds, Behichs and Vrankovics'

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The Aardvark    284

DMac has done his hammy and is out for a few months (must be a bad hammy) according to his twitter.

It won't happen but I'd be happy to look at cutting him if we could afford it abd bringing McGrath or another prospect in. He's barely worthy of a spot in the squad as is let alone if he is going to miss multiple games.

Also sucks in that it means he won't be available for the early rounds when Mifsud is playing internationals.

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