dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Now that this season is over, I reckon it's a good time to bring this up: The badge. I've asked about two dozen of my friends (a mix of Heart fans, sensible Victory fans and neutrals/non a-league followers) what they think of Melbourne Heart's badge and the responses I got ranged from 'mmm, it's kinda weird' to 'it's bad - they should change it'. Not only did I not get any positive responses, but I didn't even get any neutral responses. In case anyone's struggling to join the dots, this means that our current badge is baad. This is a big issue, and by extension so is the way the wider community sees our club. No, a new badge won't win us championships or instantly bring in thousands more fans, but it is an incredibly simple, easy and cost-free way to improve the image of the club so we're taken seriously. The current badge doesn't even look like a football team badge. At risk of sounding arrogant, I think there aren't any better badge-appropriate symbols for our club than the red and white stripes, and the Flag of Melbourne (which is also red and white. I've seen it in the crowd a few times - google it if you haven't). These can be combined to make a badge that IMHO represents the club perfectly and looks good - as good as WSW's and better than all the other clubs'. I've put up a few variations of this design, my favourites being the middle and right ones on the top row. What do you think? And how can I/can someone here contact the club about this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel21 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I like the badge at the top of the home page for this site, the circle around our symbol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I hate the badge, it is horrible but I doubt they'll change it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Someone mentioned a modified badge to Heart brains trust recently and they said fuck orf - I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I like the badge at the top of the home page for this site, the circle around our symbol That's marginally better than what we've got, but it still has that shitty blob shape in the middle that is the reason I hate the current one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't like anything of them tbh. Why would we want a cow (or whale?) on our badge? Ours is good but could be improved to make it more 'traditional' by adding a shape or crest around it etc. but I don't like any of yours. Not hating, just my 2 cents. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbobbobmarley Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Current Badge is awful so the bar isn't set too high, but your designs are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Someone mentioned a modified badge to Heart brains trust recently and they said fuck orf - I think If we make enough noise, send shitloads of emails, and repeatedly mention it at fan forums etc they'd have to take notice sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I don't like anything of them tbh. Why would we want a cow (or whale?) on our badge? Ours is good but could be improved to make it more 'traditional' by adding a shape or crest around it etc. but I don't like any of yours. Not hating, just my 2 cents. Fair enough, but that's the flag of melbourne. atletico madrid has a bear picking strawberries on theirs cos it's the madrid coat of arms, and koln has a billy goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Our badge is last thing we should be worrying about. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Officially the off season for us now. I think we have the time to speak about every little issue. The badge, yes a little issue but can and should be fixed. I love all your designs by the way, 4th would be my favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 4th or 1st and I'd be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpantlin Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Fwiw I actually love our logo. It's unique and a great design. What is the obsession with having a circle around the current design or a different logo in a circle. The only other A-League team that has that is the Wanderers. Plus building a brand means being recognisable, not having a new logo every three years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'd rathe a professional logo rather than a logo that looks like a crap 5 year olds drawing of a transformer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Our lowest point is probably a good time for a rebranding if they want one, but I don't see it happening. It always seemed odd that a group attempting to form a more "traditional" football club went with the name 'Heart" and a modern stylised logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Fwiw I actually love our logo. It's unique and a great design. What is the obsession with having a circle around the current design or a different logo in a circle. The only other A-League team that has that is the Wanderers. Plus building a brand means being recognisable, not having a new logo every three years. I like it too, it's contemporary, we are a modern club, let's not pretend that we have a 100 year old design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Club has already said the badge will not be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Fwiw I actually love our logo. It's unique and a great design. What is the obsession with having a circle around the current design or a different logo in a circle. The only other A-League team that has that is the Wanderers. Plus building a brand means being recognisable, not having a new logo every three years. I like it too, it's contemporary, we are a modern club, let's not pretend that we have a 100 year old design. to cpantlin, the brand the club has built so far is one of being small, unsuccessful and ambitionless. and to belaguttman, it's not really pretending that we've got a 100 year old design, just having a design that looks like it's a football club badge. I'm guessing the only people who like the current badge are some of the rusted on supporters, of which there aren't many. The club has to appeal to other people too, and as I found out by asking around the overwhelming consensus is that it's bad. Even my girlfriend and little sister think its bad because it looks feminine, and that's saying something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 A vote/poll will probably be a resounding yes to change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 A vote/poll will probably be a resounding yes to change it Oops yeah I should've made a poll, but IIRC TornAsunder on another thread that in the fan representative group only he and Ando, so 25% of the group knew that this forum existed. So this forum represents only a small portion of the clubs membership base. Not to mention that a lot of these users probs won't even go on these forums for a while cos of the dismal situation, and thus won't vote On top of that, the membership base only represents less than half of our total fans (judging by our 6500 members v 14000 that showed up for the del piero extravaganza). And this itself represents a small portion of our potential fans, which are vital to our success because these are the people that will grow our attendances. A decision needs to be made taking aaall these people into account, not a fraction of a half of a small portion, which is what a poll would represent. When all of these people are taken into account the obvious answer is to change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 TornAsunder said we are on our own . I do not care for any of his posts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 zzzzzzzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Officially the off season for us now. I think we have the time to speak about every little issue. The badge, yes a little issue but can and should be fixed. I love all your designs by the way, 4th would be my favourite +1 on the 4th design. However kontra.11's avatar would make for a great mhfc logo I even like the shade of red he has used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 TornAsunder said we are on our own . I do not care for any of his posts now. ...but I still care for your posts MrAidan And to clear things up, the only topic I was walking away from was the Active / ACG online mess, which was going in circles ... Until it was revealed by BH that the matter is being worked through by the Terrace leaders offline, which is good news. Posts and opinions of a constructive nature will continue to be reported back to the club....in fact I should hopefully have an update to give tomorrow. ...and as a few mentioned previously, the club is not interested at this stage in tweaking their logo / badge. There is nothing to stop people making their own versions as avatar images, or even to potentially take to games though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 TornAsunder said we are on our own . I do not care for any of his posts now. ...but I still care for your posts MrAidan Kiss and make up guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 The club wasn't founded in 1905, we were founded in the 21st century. These traditional logo designs are just as plastic and none of them are indicative on the clubs history. The logo is fine, it's unique and we will grow along with it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I like the badge at the top of the home page for this site, the circle around our symbol Do you mean this one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Wrong year, fixed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I think if the club just removed melbourne heart from the top and just had the MH it would be perfect. I dont want this traditional bullshit with pictures of cows roosters and boats 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I think if the club just removed melbourne heart from the top and just had the MH it would be perfect. I dont want this traditional bullshit with pictures of cows roosters and boats I've been crying out for this for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The club was founded in 2008 Red or Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thought so! Red or dead, I win. 1-0 to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbobbobmarley Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The club was founded in 2008 Red or Dead. By The Visitards 5th B'day, they had 2 championships and 5 major trophies, we have Jason Hoffman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontra.11 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I am for adding red or deads logo. It is a good change but still keeps the original. Don't think it's a good idea to change completely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The club was founded in 2008 Red or Dead. My understanding is that the syndicate was established in 2008 and the "Melbourne Heart Football Club" license was granted in 2009. In 2008 I don't even think this club had a name yet: Thought so! Red or dead, I win. 1-0 to me Stop embarrassing yourself mate, you won't win this! About us Our Club Inspired by a vision for a broad based community team, celebrating cultural diversity and sporting passion through football, Melbourne Heart FC was established in 2009. Drawing a link between past, present and future, the Heart’s founders aimed to develop a club truly representative of the wider Victorian football public, hoping to build an identity and guiding philosophy future generations will identify as the beating heart of Melbourne’s newest team. http://www.melbourneheartfc.com.au/aboutus Ha!! Keep hoping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The club was founded in 08' Just deal with it . Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Why you little I think in this case we can both be right...will you accept that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Why you little I think in this case we can both be right...will you accept that? Hmm alright I guess we can come to an agreement .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Get a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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