Harrison Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Probably best that we move on from the weekend's debacle. This is a great chance to prove to everyone, inluding ourselves, that we're not a spineless bunch of pushovers. Of course, we are, but if we can beat Victory here then we could use it as a springboard. I'm predicting wholesale changes in this one, even though only two are forced. Bouzanis out for mine after copping three, bad luck there. Obviously Delbridge is out for some time through suspension and Hendry might be done for good. Jamieson will walk back into the team. I'd be dropping Najjarine and moving Susaeta back out wide after he was almost invisible in the middle. Berenguer probably holds his spot over Genreau because of fitness but Metcalfe should get a start. I'd be tempted to give Colakovski a start over Noone but this is very unlikely. Could easily see this: Glover Atkinson/Griffiths/Good/Jamieson Metcalfe/Brillante/Berenguer Noone/Maclaren/Susaeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, Harrison said: Probably best that we move on from the weekend's debacle. This is a great chance to prove to everyone, inluding ourselves, that we're not a spineless bunch of pushovers. Of course, we are, but if we can beat Victory here then we could use it as a springboard. I'm predicting wholesale changes in this one, even though only two are forced. Bouzanis out for mine after copping three, bad luck there. Obviously Delbridge is out for some time through suspension and Hendry might be done for good. Jamieson will walk back into the team. I'd be dropping Najjarine and moving Susaeta back out wide after he was almost invisible in the middle. Berenguer probably holds his spot over Genreau because of fitness but Metcalfe should get a start. I'd be tempted to give Colakovski a start over Noone but this is very unlikely. Could easily see this: Glover Atkinson/Griffiths/Good/Jamieson Metcalfe/Brillante/Berenguer Noone/Maclaren/Susaeta That looks pretty good on paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 I know it won't happen, and I know that half the forum will disagree. But I'm starting Wales this week instead of Noone. Since we have gone to absolute shit the one thing that has changed is Cabrera, that guy who gets the ball runs forwards and takes on his defender. By him doing that it made a CB have to cover leaving maclaren more space and only 1 defender he needs to deal with. Wales is similar to cabbie, except without the end quality. But I'd much prefer to see Wales being positive and making a wrong decision sometimes then having see a CB launch a 50 metre high ball that Donachie will head all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 15k crowd incoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 If no one is there to watch the derby. Does it actually happen? 🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 FWIW Noone has scored in 3 of the last 4. The 4th was a 0-0 draw. I know its not everything, but theyre still good numbers for a winger. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, neio said: I know it won't happen, and I know that half the forum will disagree. But I'm starting Wales this week instead of Noone. Since we have gone to absolute shit the one thing that has changed is Cabrera, that guy who gets the ball runs forwards and takes on his defender. By him doing that it made a CB have to cover leaving maclaren more space and only 1 defender he needs to deal with. Wales is similar to cabbie, except without the end quality. But I'd much prefer to see Wales being positive and making a wrong decision sometimes then having see a CB launch a 50 metre high ball that Donachie will head all day Noone at least scores a goal wales has 3 in 50. Noone has 3 in 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, bt50 said: FWIW Noone has scored in 3 of the last 4. The 4th was a 0-0 draw. I know its not everything, but theyre still good numbers for a winger. The extent of the Noone hate is unjustified tbh, he's been one of our better players in a shitty month tbh. Was just having a look at some A-League stats and he's equal 3rd in the league for chances created (the same amount as Diego Castro) so clearly he has worth. Sure, he's a little slow and predictable but I don't believe our gameplan suits his or Maclaren's style at the moment and we all know they're our two most likely avenues to goal. We desperately need Atkinson or a fit, running Galloway to play right-back to help out Noone so he can interplay more rather than running down the wing all by himself, then inevitably cutting in and getting blocked just about every time because at the moment, he's way too isolated for such a slow winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nate said: The extent of the Noone hate is unjustified tbh, he's been one of our better players in a shitty month tbh. Was just having a look at some A-League stats and he's equal 3rd in the league for chances created (the same amount as Diego Castro) so clearly he has worth. Sure, he's a little slow and predictable but I don't believe our gameplan suits his or Maclaren's style at the moment and we all know they're our two most likely avenues to goal. We desperately need Atkinson or a fit, running Galloway to play right-back to help out Noone so he can interplay more rather than running down the wing all by himself, then inevitably cutting in and getting blocked just about every time because at the moment, he's way too isolated for such a slow winger. Noone imo is a victim of the same problem that the fans have of the club; the fans own lofty expectations aren't being met, but objectively theyre still better than average in almost every aspect. He definitely needs to have more impact, but i think there has been some good steps forward in his contributions over the last month or so. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, CityBoyz said: Noone at least scores a goal wales has 3 in 50. Noone has 3 in 4 And where has those 3 goals got us? This isn't an attack on Noone, but we need something different in attack. At the moment we are very easy to defend against. I highly doubt Noone will be dropped to bench, but we need to look at something I'll admit that Atkinson as an attacking full back behind him, will definitely help this and that's hopefully the way we go this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 If Noone could just convert 25% of his clear chances more consistently and stick his passes at a slightly higher rate, he'd set the league on fire. My frustration with him is that he is often wasteful, and it doesn't look like he should be ... a bit like Jammo shooting it into row z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Glover Atkinson - Griffiths - Good - Galloway Genreau - Brillante - Metcalfe Susaeta - Maclaren - Noone Their midfield is awful, if we can't dominate the middle of the park we may as well fold the club. Get our wingers switching instead of the predictability of Noone cutting inside, it'd be nice to see him cutting the ball back across the box for Maclaren. With any luck Luna is fit and can slot in the middle and give us a bit more attacking punch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Nate said: 15k crowd incoming If we're lucky will get that. Its sad watching the old derby highlights the city Facebook page has been putting out and seeing the ground packed Now we struggle to get half of that 😢 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, kingofhearts said: If we're lucky will get that. Its sad watching the old derby highlights the city Facebook page has been putting out and seeing the ground packed Now we struggle to get half of that 😢 Was gonna post the same thing. The Yarraside end was fucking phenomenal that day and it still shows on those highlights. It's hard to see how the club will ever regain that level of passion from its supporters ever again tbh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Toivonen, Kruse, Rojas, Nabbout. Our defense will be challenged. On a positive crowd numbers, more Visitors fans will turn up to see this lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 19 hours ago, neio said: I know it won't happen, and I know that half the forum will disagree. But I'm starting Wales this week instead of Noone. Since we have gone to absolute shit the one thing that has changed is Cabrera, that guy who gets the ball runs forwards and takes on his defender. By him doing that it made a CB have to cover leaving maclaren more space and only 1 defender he needs to deal with. Wales is similar to cabbie, except without the end quality. But I'd much prefer to see Wales being positive and making a wrong decision sometimes then having see a CB launch a 50 metre high ball that Donachie will head all day If you think we need wales in a reckon we are better off playing Susaeta as a out and out #10 having noone and wales on the wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 19 hours ago, bt50 said: Noone imo is a victim of the same problem that the fans have of the club; the fans own lofty expectations aren't being met, but objectively theyre still better than average in almost every aspect. He definitely needs to have more impact, but i think there has been some good steps forward in his contributions over the last month or so. Keep posting sensible stuff like this and you’ll be banned or ostracised Do we need to play this game ? just give us the 3 points. Genreau, Metcalfe, Griffiths and Jammo in for mine, Brtenguer, Najjarine, Hendry, Del out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Shahanga said: Keep posting sensible stuff like this and you’ll be banned or ostracised Do we need to play this game ? just give us the 3 points. Genreau, Metcalfe, Griffiths and Jammo in for mine, Brtenguer, Najjarine, Hendry, Del out. Nah, bt50 is usually readable and thoughtful. Even if I don't agree, his point will usually be well made. Noone frustrates me, but there is undoubtedly talent there. How to play him to maximise that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Nah, bt50 is usually readable and thoughtful. Even if I don't agree, his point will usually be well made. Noone frustrates me, but there is undoubtedly talent there. How to play him to maximise that? Noone is a huge disappointment in my eyes. A one-trick pony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, fensaddler said: Nah, bt50 is usually readable and thoughtful. Even if I don't agree, his point will usually be well made. Noone frustrates me, but there is undoubtedly talent there. How to play him to maximise that? You miss understood me. I agree with BT. incidentally I consider Noone one of our best players. Has class, creates havoc and chances. Plays like I want my wingers too. One of the first names on the team sheet every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) We lose this and #MombaertsOut might take off Edited February 4, 2020 by hakz7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, hakz7 said: We lose this and #MombaertsOut might take off After all of this I’m starting to think that one of the clubs major issues is that it changes too much from season to season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Shahanga said: You miss understood me. I agree with BT. incidentally I consider Noone one of our best players. Has class, creates havoc and chances. Plays like I want my wingers too. One of the first names on the team sheet every week. No worries. You agreed with bt and I agree with you. I think we all agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, fensaddler said: No worries. You agreed with bt and I agree with you. I think we all agree! Edited February 4, 2020 by kingofhearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Dylan said: After all of this I’m starting to think that one of the clubs major issues is that it changes too much from season to season. Agree, like to see most of the players retained next year and see what happens with a stable squad and a good marquee midfielder. It's not like we're way off the pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 58 minutes ago, Le Hack said: Agree, like to see most of the players retained next year and see what happens with a stable squad and a good marquee midfielder. It's not like we're way off the pace. Exactly. I also have a feeling that allowing Mombaerts to bring in his own assistant who is now tech director might be an understated benefit. I also think PK needs to go abroad soon, for his own development. Id keep all the players we have except the obvious off contract ones like Florin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Dylan said: After all of this I’m starting to think that one of the clubs major issues is that it changes too much from season to season. Don't think there's much doubt about this. IMO our turnover of players and assistant coaches has been horrendous. I also get the feeling that there's a significant turnover in administrative staff as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Going to watch this one at home the usual people I go with can’t make it and just shows the state the league is in when I can’t convince anyone else to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IssySG Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, citypool said: Going to watch this one at home the usual people I go with can’t make it and just shows the state the league is in when I can’t convince anyone else to go Come watch it from the terrace, I'll buy you a beer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Gotta go full attack Victory’s defence is weak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Melbourne City FC squad: 1.Tom GLOVER (gk), 2.Scott GALLOWAY, 3.Scott JAMIESON, 6.Josh BRILLANTE, 7.Rostyn GRIFFITHS, 9.Jamie MACLAREN, 10.Florin BERENGUER 11.Craig NOONE, 13.Nathaniel ATKINSON, 14.Markel SUSAETA, 17.Denis GENREAU, 19.Lachlan WALES, 20.Adrian LUNA, 21.Ramy NAJJARINE, 22.Curtis GOOD, 23.Dean BOUZANIS (gk), 30.Moudi NAJJAR, 36.Kerrin STOKES, 34.Connor METCALFE, 49.Stefan COLAKOVSKI **2 to be omitted** Ins: 3.Scott JAMIESON (returns from suspension), 20.Adrian LUNA (returns form injury), 49.Stefan COLAKOVSKI (promoted), 36.Kerrin STOKES (promoted) Outs: 4.Harrison DELBRIDGE (suspended - 2 weeks), 5.Jack HENDRY (knee) Unavailable: 40.Richard WINDBICHLER (hamstring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Anyone else reckon Brillante might play CB again? Victory have such a potent and quick attack that perhaps Brillante will be a better defensive option given his rapid closing down speed. Griff can then screen in a defensive midfield position in front of him against a crappy Victory midfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 - 1 Victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityWildcat Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 I fear this one. Rojas has always been one of their better attackers and is a more than able replacement for Kosta up front. I feel OK saying that, it is NZ's national day today and those two and me are all Kiwis. It's the day before the derby and we are still on page one of match thread. Says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Bouzanis will definitely not be playing according to Mombaerts. Glover is in. He said that Dean has a personal problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Harrison said: Bouzanis will definitely not be playing according to Mombaerts. Glover is in. He said that Dean has a personal problem. His problem is that he's shit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: His problem is that he's shit 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: His problem is that he's shit Poor fellas probably had a nervous breakdown from reading top comments like this week in week out 🤦🏻♂️🙅♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, Missing_Moy said: 🤦♂️ 25 minutes ago, Tomi said: Poor fellas probably had a nervous breakdown from reading top comments like this week in week out 🤦🏻♂️🙅♂️ If he read he read the comments on here he would've quit a long time ago. Tongue in cheek comment at most mate, obviously I hope he's alright personally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Derby day, fire up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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