jw1739 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Ladies and Gentlemen, remember that the posters to this forum are few in number compared with the total Heart membership. No-one can claim to 'represent' an overall view. What we post are our personal opinions only. I know the identity of only a couple of other posters. I don't know either Cadete or Markn and I personally welcome both their contributions. I agree with some, disagree with others, just as you all do with me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) After doing a bit of research, when Fred has missed games, or gone off injured, we have a record of zero wins, 5 draws, and 8 losses. When he's played, we've won 10 games, drawn 6 and lost 3. As well as his skill, his attitude and work rate have been exemplary. The only issue with his captaincy is that he seems to be the type that leads through example rather than using a lot of communication. He often does so much, that it's very noticable when he's not there because we haven't had anyone who comes close to replacing him. At times last year, he almost WAS our midfield. With Garcia and Grella, we should have a more balanced midfield this year, and players with the ability and skill to make up for his loss. But I really don't understand how people can undervalue his contibution. The hamstrings are a concern though. As I understand it, when you tear a hamstring once or twice, it's more likely to succumb to a recurrence of it. Otherwise, he's physical condition has been excellent. His age in itself is no issue at all. It will be interesting to see the impact that Grella has. Because otherwise, I reckon we probably have no hope of winning the league without Fred. Edit: Actually, he went off at half time against Perth didn't he? Add another loss to the column when he's not there. Edited October 31, 2012 by Sash 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 After doing a bit of research, when Fred has missed games, or gone off injured, we have a record of zero wins, 5 draws, and 8 losses. When he's played, we've won 10 games, drawn 6 and lost 3. As well as his skill, his attitude and work rate have been exemplary. The only issue with his captaincy is that he seems to be the type that leads through example rather than using a lot of communication. He often does so much, that it's very noticable when he's not there because we haven't had anyone who comes close to replacing him. At times last year, he almost WAS our midfield. With Garcia and Grella, we should have a more balanced midfield this year, and players with the ability and skill to make up for his loss. But I really don't understand how people can undervalue his contibution. The hamstrings are a concern though. As I understand it, when you tear a hamstring once or twice, it's more likely to succumb to a recurrence of it. Otherwise, he's physical condition has been excellent. His age in itself is no issue at all. It will be interesting to see the impact that Grella has. Because otherwise, I reckon we probably have no hope of winning the league without Fred. Edit: Actually, he went off at half time against Perth didn't he? Add another loss to the column when he's not there. 100% agree. Fred leads by doing the hard hards. He's almost everywhere at once, a 12th man on the pitch. We did well to get him. I hear Grella is good with the lads and I think he'll be really good at helping to organise the boys on the pitch during game time. Dare I say a kind of Muscrat presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunheart Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Gerhardt captain next season? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunheart Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Gerhardt captain next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) According to todays "The Age", Hoffman is looking like replacing Fred in our starting line-up. That should please all those writing Fred off. http://www.theage.com.au/sport/a-league/injured-pair-back-in-the-frame-for-heart-20121031-28kck.html Edited October 31, 2012 by Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 After doing a bit of research, when Fred has missed games, or gone off injured, we have a record of zero wins, 5 draws, and 8 losses. When he's played, we've won 10 games, drawn 6 and lost 3. Seriously, maybe Fred is a player whom we should be using selectively - i.e. we don't attempt to play him every single game so that we can give his body time enough to recover. For example, if that Won 10, Drawn 6 and Lost 3 was our home record we'd be drawing bigger crowds than we do currently. We didn't attempt to play JA every game because of his legs - why not Fred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Seriously, maybe Fred is a player whom we should be using selectively You dont play your number "8" selectively. Its like changing the engine of a car just to preserve the engine. If the engine is no good, you cut your losses and rebuild the car with a new engine. Maybe we need a new number "8". I think we need a new number 8, but it does not mean Fred is not important. Given what i saw last week, Mate was fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) According to todays "The Age", Hoffman is looking like replacing Fred in our starting line-up. Really?!?!?! Kalmar or Mate or even Brodie Patterson un able to play there? Might as well give them the points Edited November 1, 2012 by billyheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I have no idea why we would play Hoffman. His first touches are too heavy and usually backwards. I thought Dugandzic did a good job when he came on against CCM so why change? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I am paying for a trip to Sydney to watch this game and don't want to waste my money. I do not want Hoffman to play!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Kalmar > Hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 is kalmar a striker? why was he subbed on against Wellington in that role? Surely the hoff is better up front than kalmar. mind you all i can remember from kalmar is his goal against newcastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 is kalmar a striker? why was he subbed on against Wellington in that role? Surely the hoff is better up front than kalmar. mind you all i can remember from kalmar is his goal against newcastle. He was subbed on because he is good in the air and can replicate what DMac provides for JA's system I assume. That said, there were signs last week that JA was looking to vary the attack away from the long ball stuff. We just need midfielders that can pass and move intelligently to pull that sort of game off. Fred is the only player we have right now that fits that mold and he is only going to play half the games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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