Deluka Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Thought Luna had a good game, was much better on and off the ball than he has been in the past (just missed the killer instinct but everyone was tonight) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Important three points ahead of one of those 'huge opportunity in front of a home crowd' (and where we always seem to shit the bed) matches against Perth next week. The season has been a little disappointing to date (only four losses, but each has genuinely been horrible in its own way), but next Saturday against Perth (with a tricky assignment in Western Sydney tomorrow) is an absolute rolled gold opportunity to entrench us in second. It's beyond time to fucking seize a moment like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Lot more running from Luna which was great to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Solid win. Good team performance. First clean sheet for forever. Happy Days Sorry it was a dreadful and concerning win.  Edited January 18, 2020 by Mr MO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Noone, Good and Luna in particular stood out for mine. best game Curtis has had for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, haz said: Lot more running from Luna which was great to see I liked how he tracked back and won the ball on several occasions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Luna's pressing tonight was amazing, best for me. Sure, it was a flat effort, but for all you sulking about that tonight, just remember they missed proper training this week because of the smoke.. and that looked fairly obvious to me watching them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 I was pretty happy with the game tbh. Not overly exciting to watch, but we did what we needed to do to comfortably beat a shit team. Would have been nice to bury them but 3 points and a clean sheet are both very nice. Keen for next weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Another shit performance with us taking the points, ref was good first half and the standard A-League dog shit 2nd half.  Atkinson worst on for us. Turned it over twice around the box 1st half and then got slaughtered 2nd half.  luna tracking back and winning it set up a lot. frenchy tried but he’s fucking shit hopefully Wales last start for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Susaeta cross was peach for JMAC. Hopefully gets up to speed quick so Wales can go to the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, CityBoyz said: Susaeta cross was peach for JMAC. Hopefully gets up to speed quick so Wales can go to the bench. You reckon Noone will move left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Thrillhouse said: Another shit performance with us taking the points, ref was good first half and the standard A-League dog shit 2nd half.  Atkinson worst on for us. Turned it over twice around the box 1st half and then got slaughtered 2nd half.  luna tracking back and winning it set up a lot. frenchy tried but he’s fucking shit hopefully Wales last start for us We must have watched different games. I thought Atkinson was quite solid and completely shut Petratos out of the game Edited January 18, 2020 by GreenSeater 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 I thought our defence was better. We lacked a solid mid-field and the tempo lifted once Berenguer was replaced by Griffith. Once Susaeta came on it was definitely at another level (BTW isn't he a pasty colour). And to give due credit, I did not think that Newcastle were a rubble - they lack someone up front and tidier back line. In essence teh first goal was against run of play, the second one was a penalty however if JMac had nailed that header then that would have been a great open play goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Am I the only one who saw all Delbridge’s mistakes? up till his goal line clearance he’d had a Barry Crocker. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 That was an awful game to watch and having taking an early lead you would have thought we would have gone on to win easily. There wasn't one player that showed any urgency to get the game moving. Why did we leave it so late with the substitutions? It was crying out for someone to come on and show a bit of spark to liven the game up. We do really need to get rid of Berenguer. He brings nothing to the team whatsoever. At least Susaeta showed that he can pick a player out with that cross to McLaren late on. Hopefully he can bring that creativity we lack.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXCiTyZeNXx Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Ref was really good compared to the rubbish the league has been dealing with. Hopefully she keeps this going over time and doesn't become like the other donkeys. I still haven't changed my mind about having fifa official refs Edited January 18, 2020 by xXCiTyZeNXx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, GreenSeater said: We must have watched different games. I thought Atkinson was quite solid and completely shut Petratos out of the game He failed shielding the ball/hoofing it down the line twice, turning it over that close to goal is horrific. Pot shot petratos dribbled past late on but I think he deflected for a corner while someone else was helping out and possibly hoffy went past easily too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 What a great game. I liked the defensive resilience, the attacking flexibility and the way Mombaets was so animated. Most players ran their guts out and there were no spectators on the pitch. 2-0 win in an old fashion arm wrestle and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Shout out to the kids trying to start chants in general admission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Thrillhouse said: Another shit performance with us taking the points, ref was good first half and the standard A-League dog shit 2nd half.  Atkinson worst on for us. Turned it over twice around the box 1st half and then got slaughtered 2nd half.  luna tracking back and winning it set up a lot. frenchy tried but he’s fucking shit hopefully Wales last start for us Wales had the worst game of any player. Whatever was wrong with him second half (physical or mental) he wanted none of the ball. If he wasn't injured then this may be the last we see of Wales. Poor bastard just can't crack an egg.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 7 hours ago, n i k o said: Wales had the worst game of any player. Whatever was wrong with him second half (physical or mental) he wanted none of the ball. If he wasn't injured then this may be the last we see of Wales. Poor bastard just can't crack an egg.  Totally agree. I told my brother that he couldn't score at all in an AFL game. Also to note there was hesitation to pass the ball to him. I think that apart from the lack of skills he is down mentally. Most likely he can see the writing on the wall. 8 hours ago, Thrillhouse said: He failed shielding the ball/hoofing it down the line twice, turning it over that close to goal is horrific. Pot shot petratos dribbled past late on but I think he deflected for a corner while someone else was helping out and possibly hoffy went past easily too We noted that his work rate went down after the 65 minute mark. Out of the three substitutions I would have made he was the third one for me purely because he looked spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 hours ago, silva10 said: That was an awful game to watch and having taking an early lead you would have thought we would have gone on to win easily. There wasn't one player that showed any urgency to get the game moving. Why did we leave it so late with the substitutions? It was crying out for someone to come on and show a bit of spark to liven the game up. We do really need to get rid of Berenguer. He brings nothing to the team whatsoever. At least Susaeta showed that he can pick a player out with that cross to McLaren late on. Hopefully he can bring that creativity we lack.  Both sides dropped off. We assumed it was because the horrible past three weeks here in Melbourne and although things are better the last three days you can still see early in the morning the smoke from fires that are hundreds of kilometres away. At one stage even I was affected and thankfully had to fly interstate for business and what a difference clean air makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, NewConvert said: Totally agree. I told my brother that he couldn't score at all in an AFL game. Also to note there was hesitation to pass the ball to him. I think that apart from the lack of skills he is down mentally. Most likely he can see the writing on the wall. We noted that his work rate went down after the 65 minute mark. Out of the three substitutions I would have made he was the third one for me purely because he looked spent. I was saying to my group after the game that if he wasnt injured and it was something mental then it looked like he wanted no part in receiving the ball. He didnt run hard or present himself to receive it. Imo he wanted no part of that game during his last 25 minutes. Edited January 18, 2020 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Shahanga said: Am I the only one who saw all Delbridge’s mistakes? up till his goal line clearance he’d had a Barry Crocker. All the errors he's making are going unnoticed while Andy Harper repeatedly froffs over him as Socceroo material. In comparison to last season he's been extremely disappointing.There's no doubt he's a great athlete for his size but his general play has been clumsy and Good should be the one getting the plaudits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Thought we made very hard work of what should have been a thrashing. Best game of the night came from La Femme Reffe, who, despite my support for @playmaker to express his opinion showed that people should be doing a job based on their performance rather than any other arbitrary qualification. City were pretty turgid IMO. I thought Atkinson, Delbridge, Good, and Luna all showed well, and Bouzanis for once did what a GK is supposed to do. I remain frustrated by Wales, Noone and Maclaren - we just blow so many opportunities to score it's unfathomable. I also don't understand the timing of Mombaerts' substitutions. Best point about us for me was that we ground out a win when in days gone by we would have coughed up a goal and two points in injury time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neio Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, mus-28 said: All the errors he's making are going unnoticed while Andy Harper repeatedly froffs over him as Socceroo material. In comparison to last season he's been extremely disappointing.There's no doubt he's a great athlete for his size but his general play has been clumsy and Good should be the one getting the plaudits. This is one of the most fascinating debates I see on the forum Delbo seems to be either you think he is fantastic or is average and a liability. There seems to be no in the middle for people. I think he is fantastic and one of the better aussie CB in the league where some people would release him at end of season when his contract runs out The combo of Delbridge and Good is solid enough but if this new guy comes in and is a star, I'd prefer to see him partner Delbridge but that's just me 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 I feel like Delbridge's problem is that he plays in a position where some people would prefer a player who just gives you a solid 6-7 out of 10 performance every week, rather than a player who is one of your best performers 80% of the time, but can cost you a couple of games each year with catastrophic brainfarts. Something I would like to bring up though: this crap about a controversial penalty. Bloody hell, if that's controversial then you may as well call Delbridge and Bouzanis's penalties controversial a couple of weeks ago. Unlucky, sure. Huge credit to Topor-Stanley, he summed it up brilliantly immediately after the game, basically "I can see why you give it, I would have been screaming for it at the other end, but I dunno what else I'm supposed to do." Perfectly put. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 52 minutes ago, mus-28 said: All the errors he's making are going unnoticed while Andy Harper repeatedly froffs over him as Socceroo material. In comparison to last season he's been extremely disappointing.There's no doubt he's a great athlete for his size but his general play has been clumsy and Good should be the one getting the plaudits. No doubt. Good is just a class above Delbridge in terms of positioning and ability to read the game, which is the most important thing for a defender. This is harder to judge and Delbridge on the surface seems better because he’s quite good at recovering from poor positions. I don’t mind Delbridge, I think he’s a decent defender at this level and we should be keeping him. But if it’s Good or Delbridge, it’s an obvious one for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, mus-28 said: All the errors he's making are going unnoticed while Andy Harper repeatedly froffs over him as Socceroo material. In comparison to last season he's been extremely disappointing.There's no doubt he's a great athlete for his size but his general play has been clumsy and Good should be the one getting the plaudits. Perhaps we saw the fruits of (cannot believe I am saying this) Joyce's youth coaching experience bringing the best out of him and forcing him to be accountable. In all of Erics qualities, he is far less punishing in his sideline managing and I can only presume the same goes at training. Arzani and Wales did seem to flourish under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, SF33 said: I feel like Delbridge's problem is that he plays in a position where some people would prefer a player who just gives you a solid 6-7 out of 10 performance every week, rather than a player who is one of your best performers 80% of the time, but can cost you a couple of games each year with catastrophic brainfarts. Something I would like to bring up though: this crap about a controversial penalty. Bloody hell, if that's controversial then you may as well call Delbridge and Bouzanis's penalties controversial a couple of weeks ago. Unlucky, sure. Huge credit to Topor-Stanley, he summed it up brilliantly immediately after the game, basically "I can see why you give it, I would have been screaming for it at the other end, but I dunno what else I'm supposed to do." Perfectly put. Topor-Stanley had a decent game with the exception of the penalty which as he put it what else was he supposed to do. I will note that although a handball was given by the VAR no card was issued unlike Delbridge. Is it just me or is it that I am becoming paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, NewConvert said: Topor-Stanley had a decent game with the exception of the penalty which as he put it what else was he supposed to do. I will note that although a handball was given by the VAR no card was issued unlike Delbridge. Is it just me or is it that I am becoming paranoid. They called Delbridge's as blocking a clear goal scoring opportunity (which most agree wasn't the case, but you can sort of see it with Berisha and one other WU player bearing down on goal with only Bouzanis to beat if the pass made it there). With Topor-Stanley's, the ball was still being contested: it could have gone anywhere once it hit the ground. Not a clear scoring opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, SF33 said: They called Delbridge's as blocking a clear goal scoring opportunity (which most agree wasn't the case, but you can sort of see it with Berisha and one other WU player bearing down on goal with only Bouzanis to beat if the pass made it there). With Topor-Stanley's, the ball was still being contested: it could have gone anywhere once it hit the ground. Not a clear scoring opportunity. But that was the reason for raising it to a red. He got a yellow initially just for the handball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, NewConvert said: Topor-Stanley had a decent game with the exception of the penalty which as he put it what else was he supposed to do. I will note that although a handball was given by the VAR no card was issued unlike Delbridge. Is it just me or is it that I am becoming paranoid. No, I think you're being quite reasonable. No card whatsoever? If La Reffe interpreted the rule book correctly then the rule book, or interpretation book, or both, is or are stupid IMO. I can't see any substantive difference between the Delbridge and Topor-Stanley incidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 The handball in the box was a yellow card that wasn't given. Another referee error if you want to split hairs. Either way the VAR decision was correct and the referee's penalty call was correct. But yes I agree with @NewConvert, if it was Delbridge he would have been sent off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: Â I also don't understand the timing of Mombaerts' substitutions. Â Yes, this I don't understand either. Waiting way too long with subs, honestly what's the point of giving players a 4 minute cameo? Some young players need to play a bit more than 3 minutes to develop, most of them won't play in youth them either if they got minutes with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, fensaddler said: But that was the reason for raising it to a red. He got a yellow initially just for the handball? Fair enough, could/should have been a yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Harrison said: No doubt. Good is just a class above Delbridge in terms of positioning and ability to read the game, which is the most important thing for a defender. This is harder to judge and Delbridge on the surface seems better because he’s quite good at recovering from poor positions. I don’t mind Delbridge, I think he’s a decent defender at this level and we should be keeping him. But if it’s Good or Delbridge, it’s an obvious one for me. Agreed - I do think that Good and Delbridge can complement each other. There seems to be two camps on Delbridge. 1) Fans people who love big lunge tackles and speed 2) Fans who appreciate football skills more Both are attributes of a good defender so there is no right or wrong. I guess with another quality defender in the mix you can form your CB pair to adjust it to the opposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr MO said: Agreed - I do think that Good and Delbridge can complement each other. There seems to be two camps on Delbridge. 1) Fans people who love big lunge tackles and speed 2) Fans who appreciate football skills more Both are attributes of a good defender so there is no right or wrong. I guess with another quality defender in the mix you can form your CB pair to adjust it to the opposition. Absolutely. I said this before the season began, and I stand by it: we can win a trophy with Delbridge and Good as our central partnership. Now this season Good has got better and Delbridge has gone backwards slightly after being very good last season, but they’re good enough to help us win it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 In regards to subs I think the key problem was that with 6 players unavailable we basically had no one to bring on. Griffith is just a “keep what you’ve got” sub, Susesta looked like he’d met everyone in the sheds and the rest arent old enough to drink. Challenging for any coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Any thoughts on the corners? A few of them created what might generously be called a half chance, but I feel like setting up for the short pass again, then firing it in directly every once in a while might catch the defence off guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.