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Agreed. We're showing signs of playing better football. We're actually not that far off starting to look good. We're not the team we were last season, we've got some weak links, players who don't perform or who perform in patches, some older players slowing down or becoming injury prone, but I'm trusting the manager and the process. There's a new generation coming through and we are rebuilding. Patience is a virtue. He did, and in general he's a ref I rate and like. He's far better then Beath, that's for sure...

Stefan Mauk thinks it was a crap decision too...

Adam Peacock's view: https://twitter.com/adampeacock3/status/1738516467606487121?t=0JvS3bqthP-g70RgjyfldA&s=19

Watching it in real time I thought Maclaren had been fouled first. Looked more like six of one and half a dozen... But is what it is. Think we did OK. Arslan and Sakhi both firing in midfield was useful.

We have all sorts of individual weaknesses, but beyond that this does seem a team which is too often less than the sum of its parts.

Stet. There are games tomorrow so we still might go through.

Two on nine points already one with better GD and one with goals scored one better than us. So Ulsan have to go out. For the maths to work they need to go down 4-2 to Kawasaki. Not going to happen.

Kawasaki need to put at least two past Ulsan. I think.

Goodnight Vienna.

May come down to whether Ulsan can get more than a point against Kawasaki. They have come back from 2 down to be drawing 2 all.

Commentator is giving me the irrits.

Twitter and fotmob are your friends...

3. Arslan 2. Sakhi 1. Leckie

Ref has already organised it. Someone has money on him getting sent off.

Some Perth wombat has pulled the plug in disgust. They'd bought the ref and they still ended up behind.

He didn't want to give it. Needed VAR to kick him into sorting it.

This ref is a first class idiot.

And Cola is starting for the oppo.

No Mazzeo in the squad tonight.

Seriously? No chance for me then. Not going to hang around that late after work, and I've got to get back to Lara after the match and be up to deliver a presentation the following morning.

Good piece from Joey Lynch here. https://jdlmedia.news/2023/12/08/vidmar-hoping-hard-truths-and-honest-conversations-in-japan-spur-city-improvements/

Too much aggression from Victory fans for me to want to attend derbies any more. Just don't enjoy the experience like I do other matches.

Just had that confirmed on the TV commentary. Short tram ride or longish walk from the city. Could be feasible for those of us working in town that day.

Is the venue Ikon Park, the oval in Carlton?

Jakolis looks up for this. He may blow hot and cold, but today definitely warmer....