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I am a huge Delbo fan, but you are kidding yourself if you think delbo was the better of the two. You seem to forget that nearly all of Bart's tackles ended up with him having the ball at his feet with yards of space or a controlled defensive header to a team mate (as opposed to putting the ball out to touch). You target Bart's supposed lack of passing, which is just a symptom of a stagnant midfield and forward line that did not move to create space for other players or present themselves to the defence. It was quite obvious that Bart is used to playing with players who are above the A-League.

When the whole footballing world has a differing opinion to Playmaker

I thought Delbridge was our best player in a few matches but Bart is still a better defender and footballer. And that’s no disrespect to Delbridge. I’m not sure why you think Bart’s problem was his passing. A defender isn’t there to create chances, and if they are then it’s because the system is designed that way and the defenders facilitate that ball movement. Bart’s technique was very good, probably because he came through the Feyenoord academy. It’s a strange criticism to level at the best defender this league has probably seen.

I don't know, is it? You think Bart was a big contributor to our slow ball movement? Don't you think it could have been more the tactics and lack of application of our game plan. I remember many times bort taking the ball himself foward due to limited passing options.

Simples. Shoot the gulls. Shoot the people feeding the gulls. Problem addressed. Additional entertainment.

I have another theory. Didnt sleep a wink last night (nothing to do with the theory, just blue balls.) Generally A-league teams are made up of the following: 6/5 unshaven recycled journey men, a solid leg breaking CDM, a brilliant shot stopping (howler prone) keeper, a couple goofy centre backs who can at least head the ball, a 19 year old hack dribbler with a sick fade, a fringe socceroo returning from an unsuccessful crack at the big time and a fashion forward euro reject manager. The thing that sets teams apart is a generally talented, motivated and "extra 5%" type of player. Craig Noone is that man.

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Adding the g gives more truth to the concept but I could also be just talking out of my arse

Ok if that's what you're hedging your faith in Delbridge on then you're very much out of your depth in this conversation. Delbridge probably had one of the worst conversion rates of long balls of any player. To believe this is a positive and to critique another player of not doing the same is simply unfathomable.

Still better than talking about whether or not Toby Greene is a misunderstood boy who has been hard done by for two weeks straight.

FWIW i think Delbridge had a better season than Bart last season. I dont for a second think he's the better player of the two though. I'd be picking Bart 99 times out of 100 given the option at this point in time, although who knows going forward if Delbo continues to improve. Although still very good, i dont think Bart was as good last year as he was the year before.

Cap will be gone sooner rather than later anyway so doubt there will be change to marquees

But you did say that you’d take Delbridge over Schenkeveld. Is that just because of his passing? Delbridge is improving but Bart is a much better defender. His passing is fine. Our stagnant midfield was the problem. Playing out from the back is hugely dependent on both teams’ systems. There were rarely good options for our defenders, so they had to circulate it. And I’m just guessing here, but Delbridge played more matches at LB than he did at CB, so comparing their passing stats isn’t a fair comparison.

Probably. Great convo BTW. 10/10

That would require the FFA to have a clue what they're doing in the first place...

I enjoy playmakers posts. For every ying there has to be a yang. He's our yang, or ying. Don't let them get you down playmaker, we all enjoy the lively discussion.

Love how you just bring up rubbish about players and then dismiss the discussion, the discussions you started yourself. Unless you are talking to yourself on this forum. and you do care, very much actually because it’s not the first time you’ve brought up the baseless statement that Delbridge is much better than Schenkeveld.

Take it easy Potsie, we will find a way to botch this.

God I know why I haven’t bothered logging on in months! Get some joy in your lives boys! ok. I was so impressed with that game- I cant recall in this clubs history a professional ruthless display like that. Above anything though we just looked “well coached”. The game was actually a complete mismatch and WSW never had a look in. On top of that we have the strikers in the semi- are a big chance for the cup and in good form before the league starts. Happy Days.

With all respect to Delbridge but you really struggle to comprehend the sport and recognise quality.

Thanks for the inspiration @haz I'm gonna allow this to be used as a poster at games guys (free of charge).

That's photoshopped, we all know Germans love Mondays